i was impressed by diana, daniel, joyce lewis, luisa mendoza. unfortunately i do not get to speak with -- a land-use attorney. typically we ask that candidates come before us but ms. crisp made a particular outreach to our office knowing that she could not be here today and i appreciate that. with the permanent alternate seats, i would like to ask the candidates if you have a preference between permanent and temporary so that we don't put you on places where you might have a slight not preference for. with joyce it was clearly an alternate seat. with mendoza, you only apply for the full seat. >> my preferences permanent. >> but you are open to -- right. with ms. crisp, not here to answer the question. mr. hershkowitz. >> my preference is permanent. >> ms. daniel? >> (off mic) >> do you have a slight preference? >> not really -ofm (off mic) >> >> supervisor kim: my colleagues are comfortable mr. hershkowitz. >> i withdraw my nomination for robia crisp. everybody is so good that it is hard. diana daniel, you both named her. >> we can always revisi