during another program hosted by haymarket books, city university of new york professor luke wilson gilmorending mass incarceration in the u.s. here's a portion of her talk. >> in los angeles county, decades ago the acl you brought it conditions of confinement case against the county for the horrendous conditions in the jail. over the years, the aclu was in charge of taking care and keeping an eye and with the county did to remedy the horrific conditions. about 18 years ago, the acl view invited a few abolitionists to talk to them about something that they had never imagined which was perhaps the way of the remedy of the problem was with the la county jail was not to have a jail vessel. other than to build better jail. slowly but surely this way of understanding became essential to the struggle in los angeles county over those jails. sixteen years later, abolitionists who join forces with the forces of reform managed to persuade the los angeles county board of supervisors. one of the biggest governments by number of people in the united states, not to build new jails. rather to put the mill