the non-luker legislation, not much else and i think so the generational problems exist with young staffers, constant turnover after elections, they are starting to scratch and many have to relearn issues. that is why the programs with just -- we suggest, you are right that senator lugar encouraged senator obama to take one or more trips to former state of the soviet union as barack obama got religion. he understood what those problems are. he was the new generation coming in at that time. the suggestions we are making, civil society is playing an important role, the nuclear threat initiative and i should have put a plug in their, it is interesting to note that tracing the interest not just among members, among funders to think tanks, ngos, you find the interest of gone like that, the interest is shifting to the reality of arms control issues of us russian relations that the plug i wanted to mention is several years ago the macarthur foundation, the mccarthy corporation of new york put together an extraordinarily -- great initiative in which they announced they were going to put aside i don