remind you that leonid kravchuk was running for president of ukraine, he won, and so were levko lukyanenko vyacheslav chornovil you know, if you look at this year, the people's council, which was energetically charged and headed by political prisoners, constantly attacked the communist majority, constantly on every session day and in every session hour, uh, we attacked the communists and kravchuk was fighting and then er appeared

let me remind you that leonid kravchuk was running for president of ukraine, he also won levko lukyanenko and vyacheslav chornovil, you know if you look at the 90s, the people's council, which was energized and led by political prisoners , constantly attacked the communist majority constantly on every session day and every session hour, we attacked the communists, and kravchuk fought back, and then compromising figures such as pavlychko yavorivskyi drach appeared, who went to kravchuk and tried to find compromises , so it went on and on and on. and later after the announcement independence was quite understandable, and the late vyacheslava maksymovich later spoke about it on several occasions, he perfectly understood that he did not have many chances to defeat kravchuk in the national presidential elections, because ukraine only jumped out of the communist empire, which was the soviet union, and chornovil actually behaved very dignified and was at the height of his position, he said that my main task is not to become president, but to achieve the maximum result in referendums in favor of

independence is the same vyacheslav maksymovich chornovil - well, all these people are the same lukyanenkoukhnovsky, who is still alive and well, wishes him good health and long years, eh. i don't know. this is the same censor who was recently on the air. well, that is, these are all the people who fought for it. they are not the founders. and when they they appear at some celebrations, who can help themselves to sleep? and what are these two grandfathers sitting on a moped ? well, you know, unfortunately, we simply do not have such a tradition, which exists, for example, in the united states, where the overall role of people is their contribution, for example, the formation of which tatyana malezino thank you very much of course, it's hard. thank you, because i'm just reading it and it's hard. it's so wonderful. yes, it's not appreciated in our country, but you know. well, the first president, with all his pros and cons, he was a rather ambiguous person, extraordinary, but to some extent unique, because, let's face it, he is unique . the ability to be in the right place at the right time

founders of this state, and this is undoubtedly vyacheslav chornovil, this is undoubtedly levko lukyanenko - those who are no longer with us, this is also undoubtedly there are such figures who are still our contemporaries, until now they are very sorry that we do not give them honor and respect now, because they deserve much more than the communist boss kravchuk, who was really worried about his own safety in 1991 . did not know how to turn around the communist party is actually the history of er and very timely repainting the person who said that she had er lenin in her heart very quickly already had something else in her heart and this is about what we should also remember, i don't want to belittle leonid kravchuk's merits, but making him the founding father of the ukrainian state is the same as saying that we are the heirs of the ukrainian ssr and the ussr, this is our country, that we want to continue to be soviet ukrainians, not ukrainians in the sense that chornovil levko lukyanenko believed as igor filevych yukhnovsky is then the leader of his own of the national democratic opposit

and oleksandr lukyanenko, the writer, was speaking on the podium, and kravchuk asked , he said this lukyanenko and i joked, i say no . this is not him yet, when he comes to the podium, he will be very scary for you. well, we can say that kravchuk is really a weatherman, a person who had quite good political intuition and knew how to take risks in his own way after all, for me, for example, this period of august 19-204, 2001, when kravchuk was simply interrogating these soviet generals, but when kyivska street supported independence and he was simply able to take advantage of this and listen to the position of the people's council of the then patriotic bloc, is important to me to the verkhovna rada of the first convocation, and in fact he became one of the creators of independence, even for a certain period of time, about a year, ukraine held a certain leadership in the post-soviet space, such an ideological, er, democratizing leadership that ukraine looked like such an anti-imperial force that actually pushed russia to give up any imperial ambitions well, but a year later it was lost somewhere

it is difficult to even get out of bed . of the surgical department of the hospital, vyacheslav lukyanenkoays, at the beginning of the war, the work of surgeons has changed radically, now mines, explosive injuries, gunshot wounds, which are more difficult to treat according to the protocol, are now a little less because they have already learned not to approach explosive objects, and at the beginning there was interest in all kinds of these military toys, people were not afraid at first. it is not yet known how long tatyana semenova will stay in the hospital, the woman says. the only news on public mykolaiv in ukr oboronprom plan to rebuild the dream plane and the state enterprise antonov has already opened a special fund for donations, i would like to remind you that the largest aircraft in the world, the an-225 mriya, was destroyed by the russian army in the first days of the full-scale invasion, was it possible to save it and whether it was advisable to restore it? after the collapse of the soviet union, the program was closed, and the plane itself was placed in a hangar until, in the e

places are places where i was physically, that is, i was there, i know them very well, starting with lukyanenkoarkiv at the end and hmm , well, that's the face of the russian world. that is, like this you need to show it clearly, you don't even need to show it here, but first of all it's for the west, first of all it's for the world, so that the world can see it, because everyone sees it now, it's the information space. well, listen, i was there, how was it? of an average european he does not know what ukraine was like before 27 the building listen if he sees anything irpin that he does not understand how when he sees the destruction when he sees how it was beautiful and normal before that just as he can or just as he wants so that he has and then see how did it happen because what images do average europeans often have about ukraine? well, it’s some kind of soviet country, only that it’s crm and so on, and when they see bucha, what it was like before the khustskyi mir wrote, then what the russians who came would say, and here there is asphalt here, they have gas, they come to you. and what is

judge everyone in their places, but even those people whom you mentioned , well, at least the late lukyanenko, yes, they talked about the fact that when they tried to somehow communicate with leonid kravchuk to prove to him their position regarding the independence of ukraine, he did not immediately but insisted on their proposal and in the end in the end, he did what he did. and by the way , a piece of history probably went to some extent today. that is, it was the last third person who signed the famous agreement that you just mentioned, because yeltsin died much earlier, recently left the first president of belarus and the first president of ukraine, in principle, all these three people were ambiguous, but they probably did one very important thing and were not afraid to put these signatures and collapse one of the last, perhaps the largest empires, and as a result, ukraine gained independence therefore, you know, it seems to me that we need to wait for a certain period of time, and it's not even years, it's probably still decades, maybe more. and then we will be able to finally correctly

founders of this state, and this is undoubtedly vyacheslav chornovil, this is undoubtedly levko lukyanenkothose who are no longer with us, this is undoubtedly also such figures who are still our contemporaries, until now they are very sorry that we do not pay tribute to them and respect for