. >> [speaking portuguese] >> president luiz inacio lula da silva, known simply as "lula," is a formerorker with a fourth-grade education and a doctorate in charisma. >> [speaking portuguese] >> when he was elected in 2002 on his fourth try, lula was a firebrand labor leader with socialist tendencies. some predicted another hugo chavez, but he left office at the end of 2010 with an 87% approval rating and much of the credit for turning the country around. we talked to him at the presidential residence in brasilia. when you took office, there were many businessmen both in brazil and abroad who were very nervous about you, who thought that you were a socialist and that you were going to take the country sharply to the left, yet these people now are among your biggest supporters. how did that happen? >> [speaking portuguese] >> male translator : look, every once in a while, i joke that a metalworker with a socialist background had to become president of brazil to make capitalism work here, because we were a capitalist society without capital. and if you look at the bank's balance sheets f

yo estoy de acuerdo con el presidente lula da silva de brasil cuando decÍa: "bueno, pemex, pemex es lada sirve, jorge, creo que estarÁs de acuerdo conmigo y nuestro pÚblico tambiÉn en univisiÓn, de nada sirve eso si se van a robar lo que antes se robaban, o peor, porque ahora habrÁ mucho más dinero. de nada sirve abrir pemex si hay lo que hubo antes. >> leÓn, y termino con esto: hÁblanos de lo complicado que es cuando seis periodistas tratan de hablar con un solo presidente. ¿cÓmo se creó ese grupo y quÉ tan difÍcil fue para ti hacerlo? >> bueno, muy difÍcil. el formato era un formato complicado que no se prestaba mucho para la conversaciÓn, peÑa nieto tiene ademÁs este estilo en donde habla muchÍsimo, yo creo que es una estrategia para reducir el tiempo de interacciÓn con los periodistas lo mÁs posible, y en un formato en donde Éramos tantos con un moderador, pues digamos que se complicÓ. ¿cÓmo se seleccionaron los periodistas? bueno, eso habrÍa que preguntÁrselo a la gente del fondo de cultura econÓmica, que fue quien convocÓ. yo tratÉ de concentrarme en un solo tema, jorge, que es e

marina silva was the environmental minister under lula, very popular socialist president. left because she didn't think his policies were good enough when it came to the environment. so, here are the takeaways. due do edouardo campos death. rousseff is less likely to win the current president because this potential woman candidate is going to be a much stronger candidate. right? compared to what she's seen before. at the same time the pro-market candidate neves, far less likely to win now. so this woman has now turned into the wild card. >> so the third -- wait, who is the most likely to win in the -- >> it's still rousseff. but the election isn't until october 5th. right? and every single day that went by, her popularity eroded and we saw neves, the pro-market candidate, rising steadily but slowly, and it really looked like we could potentially see a runoff between her and him. that looks to be off the table. >> i -- was it a private jet or commercial? >> it was a cessna. so private. >> it not an embraer? i thought maybe it would have been a small -- no i thought it would