. >> lula says if you come at. >> us brazilian soybeans. >> we're coming right back at you. the president's now on the tape saying that he spoke to trudeau today. he's going to talk to him again at 3 p.m. eastern. time goes on about how us banks, he argues, aren't allowed to open or do business in canada. what's that all about? again, jim, just adding to the list of grievances that makes it hard to know what the end game is. >> well, it is, i mean, you know, mexico, if you have a bank, it's separate from the other from your us bank. i try to open an account and then, you know, my jp morgan chase can go down there, but they don't have it. you have to have a separate bank, go to santander, go to santander. >> yeah. >> but my city is not connected. >> i decided after quite a few years jane frazier was like, we're out of here, right? >> right. well. >> all right. >> so, look. >> i to carl's point, right? what's the end game? what is and how do you. >> measure the end game is to call. >> is it is it migrants at the border. is it fentanyl? what is it? how are you measuring this? >