at the som arts, specifically that used to have an elevator and shaft so the lulla is designed for the existing space where the old elevator was taken out. thank you. >> are there other questions and comments from staff? >> i have a couple of quick comments and that was about the elevator study. this l councihas really been instrumental over the years at helping us to set priorities and identify future projects and when we look at el -- elevator studies as maintenance and accessible features. we need to identify the scope and scale of the necessary upgrades before we can really go back to the capital planning group and start giving them the specific budget that's requested in order to make those elevator upgrades. it's a very methodical process where in 1 year we'll study the need and once we know the need and can put a price tag on it, the next year we go back to capital planning and fund the need. to your point, council member wong, which this is the first step in that process. also regarding laguna honda hospital, that it would be helpful for us to know more about your experience of