jim used a lot of those kinds of sounds in the forest at night so when things light up with that luminesenceght, there are not really any sound effects, that is all music if there. tavis: something that we should all consider, perhaps with greater regularity, which is the notion of what film would be like without music. first, you'd be unemployed. >> i would be unemployed. tavis: that's number one. but beyond you being unemployed, i'm trying to get you to talk to me about how important music is when we go and see films. >> it is very important and ideally, i don't think people should be aware of the music working. i think ideally, the best thing that can happen when you come out of a movie is you don't say what a great score. i think what you should say is what a great movie. that the score is so married to the film that the experience of the two of them combined is what makes the magic. if you listen to one without the other, it is just a movie or it is just a sound track. it is when both of them are run together that the magic happens and that happened with jim and i on "titanic" and it ha