difference, what deters the russians is not that estonia which happens to pay 2% or 2.5% which will get you lunc lunch. >> martha: is understanding that you are in this together, that you are part of an allianc alliance. it noted to do what they promise to be part of that very important alliance. >> we have had this chronic problem of america paying an unfair share since the founding of nato in the 40s. there is nothing new here and yet through all that time when we had to bear the unfair burden if you want to put it in terms terms, which was protested, particularly in congress for decades, all that time you prevented a nuclear war and second, russia marching into western europe and you preserved a continent we in fact liberated. the eastern half of that by means of nato. that's what nato did fair share or not. i don't oppose getting others to pony up. it's a very narrow view of nato. right now, what's important is sin put into an anti-terror incident. as the clumsiness way to do it. all of the 28 nations are in the anti-isis alliance as nations. so now it's happened with trumps? nato's institut