>> guest: i'm co-sponsoring congressman lundgren's bill. i think he's done a good job in putting together a good bill that gets us further down the road toward employing more robust cybersecurity mechanisms. not a perfect bill by any stretch, but i think it goes a long way toward establishing the kind of regulation and adoption of robust cybersecurity mechanisms that we need on protecting our critical infrastructures. congressman lundgren recognizes that our electric grid in particular is vulnerable, and the owners and operators of our critical infrastructure particularly in the electric grid sector are not moving fast enough to adopt these kind of tools in many ways because they're puertoing profits over the -- putting profits over the safety and security of the american people, and i think that's wrong. and we're going to press them harder. >> host: what's the timetable that you foresee for action in the house of representatives? >> guest: i'm hoping it's going to happen over the next couple of months, that we would see one or both of tho

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interestingly congressman dan lundgren said a while ago that on this key point that he thought a bill that was a credible bill on cyber security had to have some point where businesses who were not protecting themselves and us could be required to do that. there was a task force that speaker boehner put together i guess last year which also seemed to embrace that principal. it's not going to be easy. nothing seems easy in this session of congress. this is one that is really nonpartisan. this is national security. the director of the f.b.i. told senator collins and me that cyber attack, is in his opinion, is soon going to supplant terrorism as his, the f.b.i.'s and our country's most serious threat to homeland security. that is saying a lot. we're behind. >> have you had any conversations with your fellow republicans in the house? >> we have had conversations at the staff level. as senator lieberman pointed out, there was a task force that the speaker put forward that has a lot of recommendations that paralleled those that are in our bill. now, in the end, who knows exactly what the ho

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