deputy lunsford, from the video it looks clear to me he's struck up the interleft side of his body. it cannot tell and it does not indicate in the statement whether the carrolled over his foot. he clearly yells, you hear him yell when the handle is snatched out of his hand, he loses his balance. so -- >> he's struck during that -- >> that is correct, he's struck up the left side of his body and he moves his -- yes, and he moves his left leg out of the way and yes, his upper body is pulled across the hood of the car. >> physical contact with -- >> no, the second physical contact is when the car is moving forward, deputy lunsford puts out his left hand to brace himself and spins his left leg, again, up and around to get out of the way. i'll come back to this gentleman. >> mr. womble, you talked about the relationship with the attorneys for andrew brown's family, but you talk about the difficulty, you said you had to be careful, what did you mean by that? and with you admitting your job is difficult, you take on the tough cases, why not do more to try to reach out and communicate with