what is lupis?is an autoimmune disease, where the system, that's protecting us against germs and viruses, attacks our own body, cells and tissues. >> let's talk about some of the consequences of that. vitiligo, michael jackson acknowledged having vitiligo, having splotches of the skin. is this related? >> he had a form of skin lupis, called discoid lupis, which affects about 40% of the patients with lupis. and you get depigmentation. >> let's look at the umbrella. you have said, one thing for lupis patients, don't let the sun hit your skin. >> that's right. that's right. >> an umbrella, would you carry out in the sun, may have been just that. >> that's correct. >> and there was something else that intrigued us. cicely tyson, as we know, wonderful actress, said something that startled us yesterday. she saidid my designerer also designed for michael. he said to me, i'm doing this glove for michael. it started on hihis hand. the glove that h he wore, the o glove, came into being to camouflage. >> that'

he said, quote, reports that michael jackson had lupis, a localized form of lupis that affects the skin and spares internal organs, included some misconceptions about the disease, particularly hypothesis lupis is linked to childhood traumatic stress. there's never been any evidence specifically linking the development of lupis to physical or psychological trauma in childhood. >> there's a write up in that in psycho psychosematic medicine. it's a study of over 2,400 patients. i'm surprised these experts have missed it. >> larry: you're saying the doctor it wrong? >> i'm sorry, he missed the study. >> larry: he's an expert on lupis. >> he hasn't kept up with the literature. >> larry: you were on my show and spoke about michael's drug use. watch. did he take a lot of pills and stuff? >> not more than anybody else. if he had a headache he could took. wasn't like he was on a daily -- >> i know for a fact i saw bottles of oxycontin, i knew he was getting shots. i know his doctors were enablers. what can i say? i conn't frommed him many times. and when i did, he would stop returning my calls u

>> basically, he had lupis. we met over me diagnosed him with lupis. it blew me away.rson in the world, with a very serious ailment. he had lupis. then, i had to deal with the loss of pigment. they're both autoimmune diseases. i had to go through process with him keeping him look normal. at the same time, he's in the hands of plastic surgeons, who didn't know when to stop. they were. and he didn't ever have a detachment nose. i had to get him out of the hands of these plastic surgeons. and i succeeded in doing that. he felt he was a piece of art. that his face was a piece of art. he wanted it to be thrilling for people to view it. >> all of the people who have written he changed his skin color, he didn't want to the black. >>speckling. i think his black heritage is something he lived with strongly. he was a jehovah's witness. i didn't think he didn't want to be black. he wanted to be the world's greatest entertainer. >> there was something that was said. that one moment really captured the man i knew for more than quarter of a century. >> brooke shields. i think brooke

he was diagnosed with lupis, which is an autoimmune disease which affects african-americans.a lot of pain. and fast-forward. many, many years later. i want to show you these pictures, these were obtained by abc news that seem to show needle marks, and a wound, a big wound of some sort of his leg. jim, what do you make of those? >> i showed those photos today to an addiction specialist, someone who runs wonderland. i said forget who this may be. if i show you this picture, what do you see? he said i see needle marks, i see a drug addict and i see sores associated with that. he was very definitive. i asked him again and again. and this doctor had been himself a heroin addict. he said looking at those photos, brought up those same horrible feeling that he had about himself when he himself injected -- he said veins in his arms collapsed. he went to his legs. that's what he found in those photos. >> doctor, what could cause a wound like that? do you have any sense? >> that wound is tissue necrosis. it means premature loss of tissue, death of tissue cells. one of the reasons that c

and there is a great drug now to treat lupis.ater this morning, and expect it to be up for the third straight month, which indicates that the economy should be turning sometime toward the end of the year, and i mean turning for real. and there is just no bad news. >> this is unprecedented, mark. >> i have not seen a morning like this in two years. it's great. the futures are up five -- i wish i could go home. >> he is taking his happy pills. >> and it's all good. and in general, we are getting into the teeth of earning season, but so far in general the earnings have bench ben muc better than expected. so it's all good. >> mark down this day. leave it to barnicle to miss all the good mornings. >> so you are feeling, at least today, good about the economy, despite everything that is going on, rising employment and the rest of it? >> no, no, i think the economy is in a lot of trouble. all i am saying is the news is all good. >> we have to distinguish the two things. mark haines -- >> have a good day. >> good luck as always. we wish