and so people go out like in the u.k., we have an individual who lives in a city called luten he goesfor these individuals and finds that gap and finds that space and intervenes and draws them in. once these individuals are drawn in, anything can be said to them which can increase and enhance the radicalization that is taking place. and where this radicalization cements all of sudden you can't talk to girls, you can't go to cinemas, you can't talk with people of other faiths. all of a sudden your world becomes smaller and smaller and smaller. you're meeting the same people, same type of people every single day in the lebanese coffee shop at the end of high street. that then leads on to the more extreme form. this was initially becoming more religious, this was becoming more idealogical, this was about becoming, you know, taking a kind of an arctic approach to life, all of sudden that become as very strong religious motive and, religion become as hook upon which people can hang their thoughts on. they believe to do something is their duty. when it gets into that realm of it being a rel