now, unfortunately for luther slater, unluckily for luther slater, luck can be good and luck can be bad. unlikely -- >> oh. >> wait a minute. wait a minute. now you turn it around. >> you've been giving me a hard time all day. unluckily for luther, his men are not going to put up the kind of fight that they did back at the waterford baptist church. the 26th pennsylvania militia is effectively scattered like leaves in the wind. these confederate veterans roll over them, about 175 of them are captured. their baggage is burned. luther escapes, but this is effectively the end of his front line service during the american civil war. now, one of the reasons i love this story is because just a few days later, the confederate army is going to approach gettysburg for a second time. and when they see guys in blue uniforms outside the town along the cash town pike, they're going to figure, oh, this is probably just the same militia guys we rolled over less than a week earlier. what they're going to find out is that is absolutely not the case, and that these are veteran cavalry men with the permane

lucky luther. so, he's a guy that really can't avoid the sense of duty, the sense of patriotism, so as the confederate army is crossing the mason-dixon line and entering pennsylvania, he's going to offer his services to the governor of pennsylvania and he is going to receive a commission in the 26th pennsylvania emergency militia. specifically in company a. 26th. and reason of the reason is company a. is made up of students from gettysburg college, what was the pennsylvania college, now gettysburg college and the lujan theological seminary in gettysburg. so you have a 22-year-old officer who has seen some experience, he's been horribly wounded in battle. >> he has one functional arm. >> yeah, he's literally going into battle with his arm in a sling almost a year after his wounding. leading a bunch of students who have never heard a shot fired in anger. and -- >> what could go wrong? >> what could go wrong? >> despite this, despite this he and the 26th pennsylvania are going to march out on the morn

that is a man name luther slater. i like to call him lucky luther's luck is not always good, but when you find so interesting about him is whether good or bad seems to put him into interesting circumstances during the civil war. he is going to find himself at the center of a lot of really incredible experiences over the course of the civil war. his born in 1841 is born just outside of levitz ville. a few miles northwest of us here. and encase you cannot tell from his name, he is a lutheran. he is part of the german migration that comes to northern loudoun county. mostly from pennsylvania and western maryland. in fact, to this day some people still refer to levitt seville as the german settlement for this reason. what this migration is going to do is give this part of loudoun county a very different culture than the rest of the county. in the northwestern part of the county on down to goose creek, till waterford, you are going to have a lot of german immigrants. a lot of quakers, a lot of people coming from pennsylvani

martin luther king. >> the tension was wonderful. >> are you really all truly idiots, or is it me? >> you! >> but it was going to be shocking.

luther, thank you again for being here. or a gun as we know has an exceptional outdoor recreation industry is responsible for hundreds of thousands of jobs and billions of revenue. and it's a critically important industry. columbia sportswear as a globally recognized brand that operates as a nationwide employer, you have stores in 90 locations. as you mentioned, some states implemented prohibitions on private employers instituting vaccine requirements. so how has that affected the effort? efforts to promote vaccinations in your workforce? >> thank you, chair bonamici. it's a pleasure to see you. and absolutely it has made it more complicated. when you think about a national company in trying to be efficient with your operations and a complex footprint across the united states, the inefficiencies of having to address different circumstances for different employees and different locations is quite burdensome. and when you think about travel between locations, having some who are vaccinated, some who are not vaccinated, it def

i think for us having grown up in a world in which martin luther king jr. is a hero it's very easy to not know or misunderstand after his assassination, it does work over the past three decadesti that martin luther king is a hero. in 1968 after the uprising in reaction to his death, after this consternation about thee direction of the civil rights movement there is an incredible encouragement for black owned business under black capitalism. the first african-american to franchise a mcdonald's. he is in that moment where there's federal pressure mcdonald's gets involved in it knowing there's a number of white franchise owners who do not want to do business in black communities anymore. they are incredibly chilled by the events after king's assassination and mcdonald's starts refuting black franchise owners to serve predominately black communities. what they discover very soon after it is very profitable for number of reasons. very profitable. for some it's a very good points you make and goes back to franchising for what they soon discover is called black st

martin luther king. >> the tension was wonderful. >> are you really all truly idiots, or is it me? >> you! >> but it was going to be shocking. >> the super bass-o-matic 76. >> got to get the laughs. >> we're not even going to have sex that many times again to be honest. >> it's one of the funniest things ever, and it's really real. >> i'm sorry, we're experiencing technical difficulties. >> it's so revolutionary. >> and that completely changed my life. ♪ ♪ >>> my experience with late-night television was all about my relationship with my dad. my dad was a comedy maven. he would say, all right, you can stay up late to watch johnny. because he knew how much it meant to me. >> he'd always say, we'll just watch the monologue. >> i understand we have a special group tonight of little league mothers here. who brought a couple of old bats along also. >> they'd go to commercial and he'd say, let's just see if they do carnac. >> a 100-yard dash. >> a 100-yard dash. >> he was funny, and he was sharp. he had this aura about him. >> what happens after you eat a 100-yard prune? >> johnny carson

it sucks, but please don't talk to joe rogan. >> and please stop quoting martin luther king jr. about covid vaccines. all kidding aside, rodgers has been dropped by one of his sponsors, a health care company. it raises the question of how dangerous is it what rodgers was done here. the health care company is telling the public aaron rodgers is somebody we want to be associated with. now we found out that he's lying and getting his medical advice from joe rogan, we're going to drop him. but it is dangerous, no? >> i want to make the point that i hope he doesn't do what gwyneth did and start a lifestyle brand. do not need that. some mountain before trump was around i was always, always worried about -- like the kardashian time, a celebrity is bad, we can like somebody for being a good player on the field. i remember sort of liking aaron rodgers. i thought here's a handsome football player, very talented. but also, you know, here we are. i'm looking at him as a football player. i'm not trying to take advice. but again it's dangerous for us and we need to stop doing it. i think the

you're not going down a good road there. >> and please stop quoting martin luther king jr. when you're talking about covid vaccines. >> rena, all kidding aside, rodgers has now been dropped by at least one of his sponsors. ironically it was a health care company and it really raises the question of how dangerous is it what rodgers has done here? this health care company is out there telling the public, hey, aaron rodgers is someone we want to be associated with with public health and now we found out he's lying and getting his medical advice from joe rogan, we're going to drop him. but it is dangerous, no? >> i hope he doesn't do what gwyneth did and start a lifestyle brand. i do not want to see an aaron rodgers brand of food. i do not want to see that ever. i'll say before trump was around i was always, always worried about the professional celebrity, like the kardashian times. i can like somebody to are being a good player on the field. i says here's a handsome football player, there's not that many of them. i'm not trying to take my health advice from this guys but a lot

rtin luthering, jr's 13ear-d granddauter yolaa king.her fir act of vil dibedien. >> i am martin because i went change, not just for me, but for everyone who comes next. my grandma said every generation has to earn their freedom. i believe our generation -- yet to be born. we need to take matters into our own hands. filly, i march because i know activism works. i have seen it in my own family. when president reagan refused to pass the king build to make mlk day an official holiday, i grandma met with many political leaders to tell them why it was so important. we will march, demonstrate, and use voices. eventually, reagan signed e bill. this is what we're going to do today. the right to vote. as a 13-year-old and an activist, here's my question to elected officials, why are you in office? are you here for power or are you here to stop silence or are you here to use your platform for good? if you are here for good, it is time to stop silencing our voices. we need critical bills passed. the john lewis voting rights advancement act. these b

in say in our prayers in farewell to: luther powell.me. but most importantly, the loving arms of god around you all. and i hope that also in this brief span of time in memory and honor of your beloved calling, we may know ourselves more united as americans. the measure of colin powell's life is good and great man is more than any one person can fully take in.or tell these heartfelt moving and appointment attributes is a long way and so your presence here today as you stand with this family all of you your memories and indeed even the person you are is now part of that larger mosaic that tells of the life of colin powell. the love and years you share as family are forever with you imprinted deep within yourheart's . and the impact of collins life on you is friends, colleagues and this nation reveals the fullest picture that we can have. you know the ways he formed and influenced you weather up close or throughhistorical events . this man had a discernible get to project product costs, warmth and goodness. which called us all to our bette

oh, when martin luther king junior was murdered, it was an uproar across the world. right. it will riots all of this country. i own people really care. just like when george paused with joseph george. close just a regular do you know freedom fighter use no angel that god sent down to give us the right to vote. just regular to put to way the sheet. she was killed. it jolted everybody into action. ah, so we look back at the protest bird on by the black lives matter movement and we see this is attorney point in american democracy and in democracy more generally with was in the death of george lloyd alone, whose back bark the math approach has been that we saw in united states in 2020, it was bad death on top of a long term process of disenfranchisement and disillusionment on the part of african american and other citizens that really cause that with what i think a lot of people felt was we're not gonna take it any more, a just a collective ceiling of enough is enough. the racial wounds and divisions that still have not healed in the united states still have not been transcende

in say in our prayers in farewell to: luther powell.ver with you imprinted deep within yourheart's . and the impact of collins life on you is friends, colleagues and this nation reveals the fullest picture that we can have. you know the ways he formed and influenced you weather up close or throughhistorical events . this man had a discernible get to project product costs, warmth and goodness. which called us all to our better selves. to strive for the good and just, to face fully into duty and with integrity resolve in benevolence to carry it out. you all have memories of colin powell in heart and mind, treasure and share them but most importantly place them before god in gratitude. before god who created the wonder and mystery of all creation gave you the last refuge room and who gave colin's life from the first and receives it back again. the great 20th century rabbi abraham joshua daschle was once asked what is the most important thing a religious person can do. his answer was given in one word. remember. that is what we do this day.

-- martin luther junior king broadway. create more accessibility to oakland's waterfront. the oakland mayor spoke about how important these funds are for the future of the city. >> this city is painfully aware that good infrastructure save lives. it's just a down payment on a total vision of equity, safety, resilience that cities across america just like oakland have been waiting for. dan: new fiber cables will be installed to improve access to the cities free public wi-fi service. ama: the 124th big game between stanford and cal will take place at stanford stadium. after playing in an empty stadium last year, officials projected crowd between 45 and 50,000 people. stanford will enter the game with a 3-7 record. cal comes in with a 3-6 record. larry beil have more on the big game coming up in sports. dan: crabbing season will open on december 1 this year north of sonoma and mendocino counties. no crab in time for thanksgiving but you could see fresh dungeness in time for the end of the year holidays. it was delayed because

under your ban could you be able to teach about martin luther king?lum that would include his letters from the jail. >> you could not. >> or the entire speech rather than the excerpt because i guess somebody will stand up and say well, that makes me feel uncomfortable. this is critical race theory. >> he talked about america go to hell. you can't teach that. i want to stay with you for a second, charlie. the tomahawk chomp. can we show this? trump did it at the major league baseball game at the world series game. he and his wife did it. the governor of georgia did it. they're all participating in this. it's the same kind of thing. there is this sense among some white americans, not all, but some that you don't -- that they aren't allowed to do or say what they want because some minority group will be offended and it is that, that's what critical race theory is to them, that i don't get to say the jokes i want to say, say the memes i want to say and do the t tomahawk chomp. >> they like -- >> remember when major league baseball boycotted the state of g

it's one of the quotes i have in the book from martin luther that you mentioned earlier, luther said, send your very best, send your very best into the public arena. in preaching the holy spirit does the work. ambiguities are such we need them all to do that. i think i would say that the verse that actually got me to first to divide to run for mayor that led to governor, is in the book of jeremiah. and people are held captive in israel. i'm sorry, in babylon. so, if nebkanezer, if i'm being held captive and when you write me, i hope you say, i'm coming to get you. stay out of trouble. if jeremiah 29, he basically says, get used to it, you're going to be there a while. and then he says go home and plant gardens, raise your children, have your children marry and then he says in 2970, he says seek the welfare of the place where i have called you for in its welfare, you have found your peace. >> what do you mean the welfare of the place we're called. this is a horrible place, we're being kept as slaves by neb dkanezer, he's a terrible guy and some are reacting, this is a horrible, look wh

-- martin luther junior king broadway.ate more accessibility to oakland's waterfront. the oakland mayor spoke about how important these funds are for the future of the city. >> this city is painfully aware that good infrastructure save lives. it's just a down payment on a total vision of equity, safety, resilience that cities across america just like oakland have been waiting for. dan: new fiber cables will be installed to improve access to the cities free public wi-fi service. ama: the 124th big game between stanford and cal will take place at stanford stadium. after playing in an empty stadium last year, officials projected crowd between 45 and 50,000 people. stanford will enter the game with a 3-7 record. cal comes in with a 3-6 record. larry beil have more on the big game coming up in sports. dan: crabbing season will open on december 1 this year north of sonoma and mendocino counties. no crab in time for thanksgiving but you could see fresh dungeness in time for the end of the year holidays. it was delayed because of

we were raised with training about equality and martin luther king jr.reject -- i don't see how what we were taught in the principles of martin luther king jr. and judging people by, we hear that now, by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. i'm curious to know how proponents of critical race theory, or whatever they want to call it, squares with this what they're trying to push now in the kids schools. >> martha: they you very much. to celebrate martin luther king, that is what you are going to say, right? i've got to leave it there. thank you very much, brooke. good to have you back with us today. a conservative woman of color makes history in virginia. >> i wasn't born here, this is not my culture, not my country, but america allows me to come and do for myself and for my family. >> martha: of reaction from a liberal critic. >> there is a black mound moving, but i white idea of the railing on the runway have a ton of a figure who justifies and legitimate's the supremacist practices. i've spent centuries evolving with the worl

martin luther king said to his lieutenant, we are going to have to make him do it.is where we are now. we know president biden understands the importance of stopping these bills, but we have not seen him call on the senate to get the job done. president trump called on the senate to create a carveout in the filibuster to pack the courith -- e supremcourt with far right-winjustic. joiden c do thato save r democry. when y go ba to reagnd thanti-apaheid prote, joe mason waone ofhe leaders of tho sers xm rad host is now on hunger strike, agn, callg on joe biden to stanup and ll on th sene to creat a path for an or dn voten thesbills. we bieve majities maer. anif they , they ould matt in the s. senat we have the votes. the bills should be passed. juan: in terms of the efforts by republicans in state after state to turn back the voting rights of people across the country, your concern of the most flagrant examples of this and what he will meet for the elections coming next year and then the presidential elections a couple of years down the road? >> in general, these bills

they were very early supporter of the martin luther king jr. holiday. i think that rights them out of that. while there's a lot of criticism of mcdonald's practices through labor practices, today there's a lot of stuff about the environment in the 80s and 90s, i find that so strange. [inaudible] >> any other questions i know i mentioned a lot of these creature comforts, universal healthcare necessary for society kind of like you said the indictment. why don't we see a lot of small business owners really pushing for things like healthcare those issues. one of your see some is franchise owners as someone who has a business and whatnot the hardest thing to try to purchase to understand and work with. i never understood why there's no idea of what the big push in terms of that. that is such an excellent point to issues that come up there very much beholden to the corporate structure with the nation's board if you work for mcdonald's who work for mcdonald's corporate rework for the franchise owner. the back-and-forth on the forth on the issue about challenge

in the idea that for a period of time, martin luther king grew up here, but sorted malcolm x.there's this long history of jazz in business and activism. that is largely been overshadowed again by some of the well earned a reputation of the busing rides, the white riots of the sixties and seventies in terms of busing black students, there's deep pride here. 25% of boston's, black i think it's a shocking step for most people. this is an incredibly diverse city, but again, we can see the messages of waves supremacy and tribalism, but also, a rising in maturing insurgent kind of community, of progression and diversity. >> thank you both very much for joining us tonight. we >> thank you. thank you. >> you can listen to the latest episode into america, about the experience of black bus stony, and wherever you get your podcasts. coming, up with the united states supreme court allow anyone to carry a concealed handgun, in times square, on new years eve? that's next. ars eve? that's next. that's next. ♪ i see them bloom ♪ ♪ for me and you ♪ ♪ and i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful

let's bring in the human rights advocate martin luther king iii.e looks _ justice look like to you? well, justice looks like _ justice look like to you? well, justice looks like a _ justice look like to you? well, justice looks like a full - justice look like to you? well, i justice looks like a full conviction of really hunting down and murdering a human being. it seems pretty clear. note cases are open and shut, although they seem like it sometimes, but it seems very, very clear from the evidence that has been presented so far that this was really a group of citizens who came together and decided they wanted to trap this man like an animal and kill him. and the fact of the matter is even once he was shot, as the officer was driving up to the scene, he asked a question of the assailants and one of them said, you know, i'm not doing so good, ijust shot someone, but yet there was no aid offered to the man came up ahmaud arbery, who was there dying. there was no emergency services. it was just... there was no emergency services. it wasjust... the the

and to then try to invoke martin luther king in order to bolster his argument when, in fact, you know luther king said we must learn to live together or perish together as fools or that life's most persistent and urgent question is what you are doing for others. is -- is -- well, disingenuous, i guess, is the polite way of saying it. but it -- it was a -- it was some terrible things that he said today. >> so, he said he is allergic to one of the ingredients in mrna vaccines. that's the moderna and the pfizer. as for the j&j vaccine, he said that he -- he referenced that some people had had bad reactions to it. i -- from my memory, the vast majority -- first of all, it was a very small number but most of it was in women, was it not? >> yeah, and that was a little puzzled by that. i mean, there are rare, rare anaphylactic reactions to -- to mrna vaccines. um, primarily to the peg component, which is, you know, peg allergy occurs in .04% of the population. i mean, four in 10,000. so maybe that's the case. but it's exceedingly rare. and the j&j vaccine is a good vaccine. it's a safe vacci

today we give colin luther powell back to the god who gave him to us.e mourn his death our faith tells us that there is indeed life beyond the grave and that god never lets us go. so as the old prayer says we gather to give thanks for all the goodness and courage that have passed through colin powell's life into the lives of others. for his loyalty to his country and his love of the good and for all those noble qualities of mind and soul that endeared him to so many, he lived a life of service and he was a great blessing to all who knew him. in the words of st. paul he fought the good fight and kept the faith. may the god of love bless him and keep him always. thank you. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ joyful joyful we adore thee ♪ ♪ god of glory lord of love ♪ ♪ hearts unfold like flowers before thee ♪ ♪ praising thee their sun above ♪ ♪ melt the clouds of sin and sadness ♪ ♪ drive the dark of doubt away ♪ ♪ deliver of immortal gladness fill us with the light of day ♪ ♪ all thy works with joy surround thee ♪ ♪ earth and heaven reflect thy rays ♪ ♪ stars and angels sing aro

i think for us having grown up in a world which martin luther king jr.a hero, it's very easy to not know or misunderstand king in his moment was not the good guy of history so after his assassination -- it work over the past three decades martin luther king is a hero but in 1968 after the uprising in reaction to his death, after all of us about the direction of the civil rights movement, there is an incredible encouragement for black-owned businesses under the umbrella of black capitalism so herman patty of the first african-american franchise of mcdonald's, he's kind of in that moment where there's pressure to open up business opportunities african-americans and mcdonald's get involved knowing there will be a a number of white franchise owners who do not want to do business in black communities anymore. they are incredibly chilled by the events after king's assassination and mcdonald's starts recruiting black franchise owners to preserve predominantly black communities. what theycd discover soon afters that it's very profitable for a number of reasons.

in the book, you refer to a bunch of different theologians, religious thinkers, martin luther, william wilberforce, cs lewis. how does their political and social climate of discontent compare with hours and how applicable are there words and lessons for us today? >> one of the reasons i love things like this festival that remind people of the value of great books, one of the things you learn in a book or and a lot of the great books is people living in a different place in a different time we do struggled with many of the same thing so you read about william wilberforce trying to abolish slavery in the united kingdom and spent most of his adult life, he loses something like 20 times in parliament but through persistence and people working with him he ultimately lives to see slavery abolished in the united kingdom. if you read the items how did it take so long to do away with something obviously so wrong? read the argument back and forth and we see the world hasn't changed that much more you think about cs lewis, a lot of his writings were during world war ii so we think okay, that soun

we had martin luther king and the civil rights movement. people like myself grew up in this post-martin luther king period. but now, the woke racists are back in the 21st century, and once again, they posit your race determines your role, at your function, and your options. that is bigotry 101. regardless of what century it comes from. >> will: yeah, horace, everything is upside down. it seems that those who call themselves antiracist are the most racist. those who today advocate for racial empathy simultaneously advocating for it racial segregation. we don't have much time, horace, but how did we end up in this place where in order to be protected from being called a racist, the best way to behave is to actually be a racist? >> well, let's remember that in the 19th and 20th centuries, those advocates of bigotry said they weren't doing it to disparage anyone. they were doing it because it was great for everyone. the same idea still obtains today. don't worry about what they say. look at what they are doing. what they are doing is separating

i love it because that was the message of martin luther king and you're right about deeds versus wordsd administration, the trump pensive administration where millions got off welfare, millions got food stamps, the lowest on appointment rate for african-americans, asian-americans, hispanic-americans, women were in the workforce, and as the kids were forced out of school the way their moms were forced out of the workforce we are still reckoning without to say nothing of all the woke is joe, woke is broke out there but i like it, and i think he would give biden-here is a big zero. i think what you describe is exactly why he's at 38% approval and she's at 28% approval because people said you didn't make good on any promise, you didn't unify the country, you don't care about bipartisan action, you don't care about people and your policies are wrongheaded. >> greg: but thank god they got rid of those mean tweets. you've got high inflation, but those tweets are gone, thank god, mike! those tweets were driving me crazy, keeping me up all night aside from thinking about you. if my delicious li

. >> and lee, i'll be speaking to martin luther king iii in the next hour. i wonder if you feel in the words of his father that the long arc of the moral universe bent a little more toward justice today. what do you think? >> well, we were certainly inspired to see reverend martin luther king iii supporting this family, continuing the legacy of his father. the moral arc is long but it doesn't bend on its own, it takes fight being mothers like the one i'm sitting next to that i have the real honor and privilege to represent, you know, these things don't happen in a vacuum. but it took sleepless nights, a lot of time on her knees in prayer and she got up and made it happen. and so the reason -- and it is true for dr. king as well, the reason his ministry, his career was so successful is because he was supported by black women, mothers who fought to change the united states. and wanda continues that legacy. >> and wanda, what is your message to other mothers of black children who are watching right now and fearing that their own child may never get justice? and

[sirens] faith in jesus christ, we received the body of our brother, colin luther power powerr.on in the company. deliver your servant : for all evil and set him free from every thought that he may rest eternal have a patient's where the father and the holy spirit, live and reign, one god for ever and ever amen. [sirens] >> let us also pray for all who mourn, that they may cast their care on brought know the consolation of his love. almighty god, look with pity upon the sorrows of your servants for whom we pray. remember them from aay board, ad mercy, nourish them in patients, comfort them a sense of your greatness. give them peace. through jesus christ our lord, amen. [background noises] >> right, left. right, left. right, left. right, left. right, left. right, left. right, left. right, left. right, left. right, left. right, left. right, left. [background noises] [background noises] he he. [background noises] [background noises] [background noises] [background noises] ♪♪ ♪♪ [background noises] [background noises] [background noises] [background noises] [background noises] [back

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. >>> global human rights of the drum major institute martin luther king iii.nk you so much for being with us today. i wonder what you think as you have been watching this about travis mcmichael claiming self-defense here. >> well, first of all, you know, i'm not in the courtroom to see. i see what is reported. but what has been reported, i don't really understand the concept of that when you are chasing someone as he did. . >> he's saying that he reached for his gun. of course we know there were a number of events ahead of time where ahmaud arbery all along was not armed. does that make a difference to you as you listen to this claim of self-defense? . >> well, i guess my position -- and, again, this has got to be decided by the jury. and none of us should be attempting to actually, you know, create what a jury has got to do. it's crystal clear to me that this man was hunted down and basically murdered. and there's a lot of evidence that shows what the, you know, person is saying, the guy who did the shooting, is not necessarily consistent. nothing is an open-

joining us martin luther king iii who plans to be in court tomorrow. there has been so much discussion, and rightfully so, about the comments that the defense attorney, kevin gough has made as he continues to try to push to keep people out of that courtroom. for people not familiar with it, i want to play some of those moments. >> don't want anymore black pastors coming in here -- jesse jackson who was in here earlier this week, sitting with the victim's family trying to influence the jury in this case. if a bunch of people came in dressed like colonel sanders with white masks in the back. >> what we have now are individuals coming into the courtroom. i will say that is directly in response, mr. gough, to statements you made which i find reprehensible. the colonel sanders statement you made last week i would say is maybe something that has influenced what is going on here. >> why do you think it is that this attorney feels so uncomfortable with faith leaders in the room? >> listen, all any of us can do is to speculate. the fact of the matter is, this i