lvov and they are shooting at lvov from the other side of the border further, what to do? so we need to move on, that is, she even pushed it all the time to this one. everything needs to be pushed back that far. yes, so to speak, from which rocket shells fly, but when they were talking back in the fourteenth year and at 15 in the donbass , this engine of the front should be driven away by 50 km, so that shells do not reach us. wait, there are no further cities. hmm well, that is, the shells will fly. just to other cities. yes, well, there are no artems anywhere, slavyansk in zaporozhye to fly. just then i want to understand, we reached the shore. masha is being shot from the other side. we are absolutely right to go further , probably, yes, but we don’t go, just we don’t go to this road, because for this reason we don’t know how to walk across the atlantic. yes, but their front fleet is still more powerful, if the chinese don’t destroy it with a crazy ocean, then we'll have to immediately send rockets then, but since everyone knows. yes, everyone knows that there is , by the way, a deadline. well , we crossed all the red lines as much as we wanted, we crossed them in syria and spat. the americans attracted them to ukraine, they spat, but now they know, then one red line appears. yes , when the question now is, and if the powers converge into folds or everything does not come down, then the question already arises. we're really starting a shootout across the atlantic or somewhere earlier on stage it at the stage of the dnieper at the stage of warsaw , the search for a compromise solution begins anywhere. it's just that no one knows at what stage yes, our american friends and partners will break down and move on. to find a compromise, this may arise much earlier, that they have problems with china, they just grabbed us to persuade us to support them against china, now they are trying to persuade. china support them against us. uh-huh on principle. well then, we'll deal with you later, and if you don't support taiwan, we'll deal with it right now, but uh, yes, the time factor is very important, and they really have very little time, because uh, one way or another, the taiwan problem needs to be solved and china intends to solve it in a timely manner and the americans know that in 3-4-5 years. they will not be able to threaten china by military means, that is, only with a nuclear strike, their fleet will already be inferior to the chinese in 3-4-5 years. this means that they have little time left, they have to solve it right away and with us the issue of the chinese during this time and tear us apart so far is not working, it turns out that time is playing on us, but time plays us on repeat. they are quite logical to leave scorched earth, if they could kill all ukrainian far-sighted and flood one of them . if you please, take it, use it for nothing now for a second. i wanted to add rostislav. but here we are discussing, and very often it happens, what this or that foreign newspaper wrote about the politics of washington new york, and we try to interpret further events based on what he wrote, this or that government leaflet. well it is necessary to get away from something. yes, but there is a big problem. and here i really hope that we have our own logic of the development of events, and our decisions are not reactive. and yet we have some kind of strategy, because we constantly expect. something country is a subject and then we will answer, but this is obviously a more vulnerable position. that country is very good at information manipulation. and we talked about it here and on other platforms a lot. that side wants its key press through a. in particular, through key speakers of individuals and, speaking of the system, which leveraged technology in social networks. yes, a call to emotions pedaling certain themes of blurring other topics, unfortunately, we still do not know how to do this. here, she wants to convey some point of view so that we think so, that they think in this way, but this is not so, because information manipulation is a very important component of this hybrid conflict, because of such an information shaft, as in this conflict there has never been an international never because there were no social networks, because there were not so many tv channels, speakers, radio stations, and therefore it is important to understand. what is that side. he wants to misinform, we have said many times that they had an idea that we would write. now let’s say that how cool the russians went on the offensive and they can’t do anything to ukraine, and at some point we made a serious mistake, because we read government lines and thought that their analytics were better than ours hmm because we were accustomed to this , for a long time, what they will tell, how it really is, and we do not we can and i understand that this is a very cruel lesson learned from our country, by us, i mean, and therefore what those government papers write. you need to roughly divide by 100. or maybe even by a thousand and have exactly your own plan , which is so, because we are yes, we are silent in our own way, and in our own way, how many times have we said, why don’t information campaigns play out like this in our country ? well, we learn, we learn from our own mistakes, but he definitely takes it at face value, and the logic of new york times, a. the post of any other newspapers, and you do not accept this, as an experienced person. and there are many more who think, but they wrote it, but they wrote it, they actually think that those who make decisions are based on these sheets, and i say, as a journalist. i'm talking about public opinion. in this case, the smartest people who understand geopolitics in military affairs are here, besides me, there are a lot of people. i am speaking from the point of view of what influences public opinion. we are very worried that how they can convince. they make us think that we are wrong, but no, once again we must learn how to build some kind of informational strategy , including building one, but so far we are behaving like silent people, but this does not mean that something is trying to convince us. it's true, as michael said, true. well, it's okay, the americans are there, really, which means it's very important for them now, but to show it there, otherwise it's a biden and so on. maybe we want us to think that on but everything is a little more complicated, well. and your opinion is not yet wait, eugene, let's talk again, right? what do you think, after all, where should we stop then? in terms of? well, this is how it should look like, right? well, here's how it will all look like. sergey borisovich says that it will be, but a compromise is enough in 2 months, yes, in 2 months, right? a year later about a compromise. here rostislav says there that he will sometimes be at completely different distances, which means that the formulas will 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dubious one, and also block spam and send a decryption. now the defender is available in the subscription. stop mobile application sportmaster buy camping equipment and get double cashback bonuses sportmaster is the most sports app. this program is true , we continue to talk with our guests about the situation around ukraine, we return about the formulas for peace plans and so on, compromises and compromises. yes, compromise is a great word , when i tried to appeal mine. yes , he said that i was very kind of militant, but most importantly, the valkyrie the valkyrie of war. thank you sergey borisovich a-a. seriously, me in this whole story with the formulas of the world, to be honest, it’s embarrassing that there are some countries that are located in different parts of the globe, and they must propose some kind of plan, to which russia must agree, as if russia is absolutely in prostration help good people themselves can’t figure it out exactly, because we were offered a lot of things before, and we went for it, including the minsk agreements. quite right, but we understand. that it doesn’t work quite right, because we understand some country eugene, but sergey was exactly talking about this vladimirovich when he talked about blinkin. i say look when blinky starts smiling and talking about how much he loves us all. and that they are interested in a strong and developing empty russia, yes. this is exactly what we always pecked at, you know, he thinks that now the leaflet of eight years ago doubts that we will peck, probably thinks that people, therefore, the confidence that we can not peck, when the time comes, when them people, honestly, it just takes time, that's right daltin. late everyone agreed on where we would stand. yes here is an example, because we said that there were alternatives to minsk no , minsk was one or two steinmarie formula, some kind of commission, but there is a problem that the osce counterparty who said we see shooting, who did not see shooting. well, well, there is a problem that one of the counterparties can perceive a certain compromise or an agreement or a truce as a way to build up strength, as a way to pump up weapons evenly, what angela merkel was talking about like you said. yes, we actually initially assumed that it was still leading to this, so we needed time. it takes us back. why couldn't we do what is happening now 8 years ago, maybe it somehow ended faster. and now we would talk about something else. so here's a compromise. of course, any conflict will end with some agreements. here are the deadlines. i'm not ready for geographically. i'm not even ready to say. absolutely perfect, but, but the only thing that confuses me is that there should not be again e perception of russia as a kind of object. they are the subject of what should happen, because there is. i have a suspicion that in high offices, probably, they also think. well, maybe there will be a better offer, but they are also adults. they know, after all, and , to be honest, this really confuses me, because a large self-sufficient country made a rather painful decision, a traumatic decision with consequences, to conduct a special military operation. and this should not end. and what we've been through something strange, like istanbul, because already at that moment they understood that, well, if they started, but how they started with one hand and the other. maybe you can offer us something. yes? i understand what you're talking about, right? i admit that in some offices someone really talks like that. well, then i just want to see some. the steps that aksyonov is talking about that they put weapons to ukraine will not be yours. ah. there, what gas will not be placed there, weapons will not be there, you will be supplied with this. that's this and that too then you will not feature this conflict. he is really strange, because on the one hand we have a special military operation on the other hand. please turn on swift, start it, please, you want the ammonia wire, here is the grain, please, but we are sure that this is grain for bread, and they are grain of different calibers. but it was it all the same you know questions. yes on the one hand, it seems, yes on the other hand. we need to put 1,600 tanks there within a year, and put them into service. and this is money money each of these tanks there t-90 breakthrough. it's like a roll, you understand, yes, they are stuffed with ultra-modern systems there. it's very expensive. and if we will always be here , these streams, in fact. there is some money coming in. and actually there we cut too. i just understand for myself. or which way to go, that you just don’t need to deceive yourself to come up with formulations, but we are doing this for erdogan. or are we doing this for someone else, you need to understand, we have the task of securing the russian federation, there were others formats did not work in such a format to save the economy. it is necessary to have a serious economic potential without it is impossible. you will remember at the very beginning of the conflict. for which a bet was made that the russian economy would collapse, because if it were all in our hands, it surprised everyone without exception. i will try. can we take so long? i'm stubborn and so zealous. we scolded, all this is our economy and economy. it just surprised us all about the search for a compromise, and everything else. here is denis, well, look, if we are not talking about they will start shooting from there. but if they start shooting from lviv before lvovit be small, well, the preserved state is small. well, if we are talking about lviv, let's say lviv to the french ternopil and so on , as far as i understand, here we also have no understanding of how it should look or will it look, the way it looks from the point of view of what as a result of a special military operation, let's say we find a compromise somewhere, and that's where we reached lviv, that's up to these three five regions there and that's it, yes, and they are hostile to us , this is provided that i do not remain sovereign and independent, and if they become part of poland. these are territories . as far as i understand, there is no composition of poland, wait, i understood correctly, we will decide this. in fact. they suddenly want to go somewhere. do you think that the ball is accidentally thrown, and the possibility of polish troops entering the territory of russia when this, perhaps, it will be possible only on one condition, if there is an agreement on the division o