lyders hollywood have such a problem with that issue of balance -- why does hollywood have such a problem with that issue of balance? there are other small films that do not make money. people go to sundance every year. hollywood these days celebrates and industry celebrates and the critics love a project that comes out of know where they did not see coming that was independently produced. i will not buy the argument they have to make money. these things that do not make money to get celebrated. it is more about the story line. >> i think that -- if you want market down that a non-black filmmakers have had many years and opportunities to tell stories about themselves and black filmmakers have not had as many years and opportunities to explore the nuances of our reality. the day, film's see there rallied upon or -- we're trying to fit into an industry that does not have a place. for these types of films. we're trying to create something else over here. that is the difference now between the 1990's explosion of black filmmakers that made independent films soon made films for the studios and