lydia schatz was just 7 years old when she was beaten to death in the name of god. was her so-called sin. lydia's parents pleaded guilty and were sent to a california prison. they claim they were following the teachings of a man named michael pearl, who is spreading his gospel through a book he wrote with his wife. it's called "to train up a child." the pearls wrote it as a blueprint for raising children the way the bible demands. but they say they're not to blame for what the schatz did to 7-year-old lydia. they explained it to our gary tuchman. >> i don't use the word hitting. >> what is the word is this. >> spanking. >> there's a difference? >> absolutely. a hand is hitting. a little switch is spanking. a wooden spoon or rubber spatula is spanking. >> why not just use your hand instead of all these materials. >> let me show you something. does that hurt? doesn't feel good, but look what it's doing to your whole body. see your hip? here's your hand on somebody, that's a karate chop. >> you say when you use this material, that it can't cause a permanent -- >> my ch

lydia schatz was just 7 years old when she was beaten to death in the name of god. allegedly mispronounced a word during a home schooling session. that was her so-called sin. lydia's parents pleaded guilty and were sent to a california prison. they claim they were following the teachings of a man named michael pearl, who is spreading his gospel through a book he wrote with his wife. it's called "to train up a child." the pearls wrote it as a blueprint for raising children the way the bible demands. but they say they're not to blame for what the schatz did to 7-year-old lydia. they explained it to our gary tuchman. >> i don't use the word hitting. >> what is the word is this. >> spanking. >> there's a difference? >> absolutely. a hand is hitting. a little switch is spanking. a wooden spoon or rubber spatula is spanking. >> why not just use your hand instead of all these materials. >> let me show you something. does that hurt? doesn't feel good, but look what it's doing to your whole body. see your hip? here's your hand on somebody, that's a karate chop. >> you say whe