lyle denniston i believe has been there for 55 years. amy, do you worry about getting too close to the institution? >> i don't think so. i think especially with lyle. lyle really calls them as he sees them, and he prides himself -- because he prides himself on being independent, not only of his editor and publisher, but also he's not somebody who is out interviewing sources and interviewing the justices. and so i think that he probably has the same distance -- i don't think that probably has changed at all over the years. i would say that his distance and attitude is the same one that he had 50 years ago. that he wants to call it as he sees it. >> i'm going to ask tony, do you think pete is too close to the institution? >> no, i don't think so. and i think just to add to what amy said, i think part of it is that this is the advantage of justices not talking to the press. they have little use for talking to the press, so, therefore, we don't develop the kind of buddy-buddy relationships that some reporters have with members of congress or