special envoy to sudan, princeton lyman was for the ceremonies. he testified before the senate foreign relations committee about the u.s. policy in the region, the continued military conflict along the new porter and disagreements between the two countries over how to share oil revenues. this hearing is an hour and a half. [inaudible conversations] >> figure it figure it will come to order. thank you all for being here this morning. ambassador lyman communistic privilege to welcome me back to the committee. we appreciate enormously the work that you are doing is the president's special envoy to sudan and i want to just thank you personally. i had a chance to see working in many meetings we've had together they are in sudan and i've been extraordinarily impressed by your study, called, tireless commitment to working under difficult circumstances to make progress. as the essence of good diplomacy and i really congratulate you. i think the president in the nfc in all the folks, the secretary clinton have been engaged in this affair. they did a terrif

but unfortunately for devon lyman, his came up dirty. >> seems we've got a bunch of snitches.uble and they instead of taking the consequences like they should, they start trying to get everybody else in trouble. writing little notes saying you're doing this or that. they're still going to get you. i've got a dirty way. i've been trying to fight it. >> what does that mean? >> they messed up on it. i'm going to see if they follow their policy and get rid of it. >> that means he's a dope fiend. >> devob may be laughing now, but if found guilty, he could lose his family visit. stst been less than one month since kevin blanco was extracted from his cell. >> chemical agents are about to be deployed into your cell. >> and only two days since the incident in the rec yard. >> you guys done yet? >> get another one. today he's acting out yet again. leaving prison staff no choice but to keep him in a 72-hour medical observation cell. >> he's holding his -- hostage. we have to take him out of his cell. go ahead and strip down. >> this morning when we approached his cell we were going to ta

>> devon lyman. >> do you need an interpreter to assist you in presenting your defense? >> si. no. >> do you wish to call on any witness's whose testimony is relevant. ? >> there's no witnesses. >> you've been charged with category eight paragraph 30 tattooing and/or possessing of ta fooing paraphernalia. do you admit or deny? >> deny. >> do you wish to present your version of the incident or remain silent? >> my version. i was in the unit and i was called out. they told me that they received information that i had received new tattoos. they asked me if that was true. i said, no. so i stripped and they seen my tattoo right here that has red ink in it. and they said that it was a new tattoo. i told him to look more closely that testifies red ink. and they weren't insistent that it was new. four days later i'm in the hole. phd my second major. never had a major before the last one. but i don't understand why i'm locked down and still they said the redness was evidence that my tattoo was new. and it's still red. because it's red ink. there's nothing i could do to change that. >> d

i thank ambassador lyman for his decades of dedicated diplomacy. i look forward to hearing from him how the international community can assist in this effort across both sudans and how the united states roadmap has worked to date and prospects for its continuation. i thank you very much, mr. chairman, for calling the hearing. >> thanks a lot, senator lugar. normally, we just have the openings of both the chair and ranking member, but today we're going to make an exception to that rule. senator isakson has taken a great interest in this area, this region as well as in this issue and he has taken the time to travel there. and, therefore, it's my pleasure to recognize senator isakson for an opening. >> i think that year. i want to do two things in particular. first i want to thank princeton lyman for his dedication to this area, this caused. and acknowledged in the last 10 years between the bush administration and the obama administration there have been five special envoys, beginning with mr. danforth, and their work has brought about the comprehensi

intervention expert stephen lyman says washington will want to keep its grip on off down a sound because waging war secretive. if. the president came out on the street with a small security detail not a practical a marine division mc i'd see him he wouldn't last five minutes the resistance in afghanistan want to liberate a country so take any opportunity they care to tie did anything any level in any term not only under one hundred thousand u.s. troops about thirty or forty thousand other troops there are well over one hundred thousand private security contractors and you never hear is this just in the major media so combat forces may come our private security forces may go in to take their place america wages wars not just to win them but to wage them because the profits are so great the war profiteers one of these wars waged ten billion dollars we know of poor down a rathole every month besides the regular defense appropriations for the afghans for all of us defense operations this is money down or apple going to the war profiteers whining little things faith upon and after then.

lyman if it is creative those pressure points can actually be used not just on by sheer but also on the oprah zisha and also rebels in other areas like darfur to mention that there are no more breaks because i think that's a general rule i don't like to see brit guards in africa with our military benefits political politico people more than ordinary citizens but in that case on southern sudan i think it's the session that proves the rule ok jonathan i'm going to give you the last word in the program what is the future of thirty second. i think the biggest challenge in south sudan is for the south sudanese to define themselves and to define what it means to be south sudanese for a long time what has held southerners together is getting to this referendum getting to this and dependence and also the common enemy that they see in the north it's now time to get beyond that and to define what it means to be a member of this there a new brand new country of south sudan ok that's a very good point to end the program on many thanks to my guest today in washington thanks to our viewers for watchi

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. >> thank you, senator kerry, and i also want to thank you, ambassador lyman, for your service. south of sudan, where the critical issue is education. and as your very, very a where, it's one of the least educated countries in the world with with the highest rates of illiteracy. i'm wondering, are there any plans to increase the amount of u.s. volunteers to go to south sudan? would it help or relations and strengthen our relationship with them by encouraging young americans to volunteer to help teach the next generation? >> senator, i'm glad you raised that because you're exactly right, it's one of the highest illiteracy rates and it's going to be a major drag on development. we do have a lot of ngos and a lot of church related activity, including sudanese churches which are provided the bulk of health and education services right now. we have had some discussion of whether we can bring the peace corps to south sudan. you have to be sure that the living conditions are possible among other things there. so we will look at that and other ways for ngos and young people to volunteer