her father, lyman beech was a pretty famous evangelical minister in connecticut. and without question that really influenced her development. he placed expectations on his ten children that they would work to reform society which was really necessary to the evangelical project in the 19th century. the great awakening, second great awakening, the second great awakening in particular was really a perfectionist movement to perfect society to really make it ready for the second coming. and so he really sent his children out into the world basically to make change and catherine beecher very much rose to that challenge. she was not a radical like some of the women represented here but she was a reformer, and i think that some of that will come up also as we go along. >> barbara i know you want to talk to this. >> well unfortunately, i could talk about shirley day in and day out. >> no, we're not going to let you. >> and i promise you, i won't. [laughter] but i do, i should have begun with thank yous to lara, who initiated this, to carol for coming and, of course, for al

stephanie: kevin lyman, founder of the warped tour.iger dog and i need to do an anniversary. erik: a big deal to tell you about. we are going right to the fedex story. the dutch delivery rival tnt express 44 $.8 billion. fedex clearly hoping to succeed where ups failed. ups trying to buy tnt two years ago and it was blocked over antitrust concerns by regulators. let's find out if this will work and why. fred smith is the ceo of fedex. why will you succeed where ups failed? fred: completely different set of circumstances within the european market for fedex, then there was for ups. we are very strong in the intercontinental business to and from europe, in the intra -european air express business not so strong in the pan-european express business or domestic trades, although we have some very good domestic businesses in the u.k. france and poland, but they are relatively small in terms of market share. if you look at our situation in europe, and tnt's they are highly, e. it would not result in a great deal of redundancies or market share

lot of the term bridgewater where he went later on, the state reform school nowadays is called the lyman school for boys, changed its name, so they have a lot of -- and the boston the bpl. they have thousands of articles were written about hill. so at the time boston had probably 250 newspapers and magazines. it was really a good time to be a journalist back then if you will. so you can find thousands of articles on him. >> wow. >> yes. you only have to dig. took me about three years to collect everything. >> so -- [inaudible] after the fire that destroyed the city do you go into that anymore, or is it really just the backdrop of jesse's story? >> it is mostly the backdrop. by time the fire happened in 1872, i don't know how much people really know about it. people tend to know a little bit more about the fire that happened in chicago in 1871. that tends to be the most famous kind of country wide fire. but the boston fire is now well known. the perp who was dealing with that was -- the person dealing with that was the fire chief here in the city. at the time when the fire took place, it

. >> when she passed away, you tweeted, the heavens over chicago, have opened, and patricia lyman simon newman has stepped off stage. you shared your mother's death with the rest of the world how do you think you treated death as different than many others, as a closed quiet confidential way? >> you know, the new york times had me write a piece a cuk of weekscouple ofweeks ago i hate to use the term why i thought the tweets had taken digital wings. i had answers the papyrus scrolls of our times that people can read or ignore or find later. as i say i think my mother was just so funny and interesting. but you know, i'm not -- i suppose i could have kept it all to myself, john but there's a reason why people like you and me are in broadcasting and not espionage. i'm not used to doing that but i think it is absolutely the way of life that we don't fully grow up until we lose our parents. because there is some mixture of wisdom that we receive only from that mix of grief and responsibility, whether they depart, and we are left on our own. i think parents know this. certainly, the best paren

today in his disciplinary hearing, he enlists the help of fellow inmate devon lyman. >> this is a regularlyed disciplinary hearing at the penitentiary of new mexico. my name is leo martinez and i'm the hearing officer. inmate morgan's participation was cleaning up after the assault took place. do you admit or deny the misconduct report? >> well, i deny it because i wasn't aware that there was a confrontation that occurred. >> do you wish to present your version of the incident, or do you wish to remain silent? >> yeah, i walked in, it was shortly after lunch. it was at that time a shirt -- or a t-shirt which was there. i wasn't aware that it was his. all i knew it had a little bit of blood on it. so i kicked the t-shirt away from myself. as i said, i was not aware that a confrontation even occurred. >> do you or your representative have any motions or considerations to present to the hearing officer? >> yeah, we have a statement from mr. banister saying he was not the one -- kenneth morgan was not the one that was cleaning up the blood. on the prehearing detention report, it's saying that m

the richard lyman bushman professor of mormon studies in the department of religious studies at the university of virginia. in a prior life she was an attorney in the district of columbia before she went on to join our crew of people who think about american religion. she is the author of the politics of american religious identity about the controversy surrounding u.s. senate denying a seat in the senate representing utah. this is our crew. we will have a conversation for a bit and then we will open up that conversation. i will start with my first, i hope, relatively simple question, which is what we are talking about when we talk about religious freedom in the early public -- republic. what did religious freedom mean during the time before the revolution and the second great awakening? what is the topic for the panel? >> that's the question, isn't it? it meant a lot of things to different people depending on who you are. to james madison religious freedom was freedom of conscience, the individuals who faced the freedom of what they wished. to other people it meant the ability not to have to