host: lyman, and he responds there? guest: yeah, that brings up an issue of what is often called christian nationalism and it is this idea -- christian nationalism -- in its strongest form, it refers to the idea that god has chosen america for a special purpose and specifically within america, he has chosen sort of conservative christians as the redeemers of the country and that america truly is only really america when it is christian. this is sort of what i am pointing to it as one of the myths on the right, that there is disbelief that from primordial days, christians and conservatives and about in all of these things, that is part of my empirical claim, that this is not true, really america was not devout. -- early america was not devout. the caller is pointing the christian nationalism, which exists, there is debate about how seriously we should take it, but certainly people on the left leave that curtain nationalism as a threat. people on the right -- it exists to some extent. it is a bit historical and concerning

there was a near contemporaneous historian named lyman draper who traveled 50,000 miles by horseback interviewing. he didn't interview daniel boone himself, but he interviewed people who had hunted and fought old men by this point hunted and fought and pioneered with daniel boone and lyman drapers contemporaneous papers were so useful. so worthwhile to us in our research. and the thing that tom and i would go back on the phone saying do you believe this do you believe this i mentioned before cotton mather exterminate the heathens daniel boone had an empathy and the sympathy there's a difference between the two he had both for the indigenous peoples who were populated this continent millennia before we showed up from europe and for instance. he told his first biographer and school teacher named john filson. he said i'm not much of a religious man, but i have as much esteem for the shawnee or the cherokee great spirit as i do for the christian god. it seems to me they're both the same people he had perhaps naively a feeling that if he can only and this greats on 21st century sensibilit

referred to lyman draper, a sad character. he went 50,000 miles -- collected all these notes -- >> on horseback. >> -- spent years and years to be able to write this opus about one of the most remarkable characters in american history and he started writing and at a certain point developed writer's block and couldn't write anymore. and he died leaving his book unfinished. thankfully, his notes and interviews and everything are available to researchers and that was an enormous help to us. >> it was. sarah, it was a pile. i'm trying to think, it was 130,000 pages, something like that. it's at the wisconsin historical society. and you asked what our -- our system is, i guess is basically what you're asking, how do two people -- tom likes to say he writes one sentence, i write the next, he writes one sentence, i write the next. but what happened is we developed a very henry ford like assembly line. tom is -- you could send me into the library of congress or the national archives and i probably would come out with what i'm looking

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the first book was called lawyer, about arthur lyman. and then on monday or tuesday they announced the starr report was coming out on friday. before that, at random house i did some been called rabbits, which is i would take a document, dusted off, and publish it. because i could do that. it was a very successful way to do government documents at a time before people could really download them with the same kind of ease. so the wall street journal reporter, a publishing reporter calls me and i am sitting in a tiny conference room and he says, peter, i know you like to do this. you will be -- will you be publishing the starr report echo i say, of course i will be. and then i go back in and say, i'm publishing the starr report. i made a single call. i called the washington post where i had worked for many years. i said, if i publish this book, will give me -- and remember this is a long time ago, give me the disc, and your first day coverage, and we will publish it as a book. and they said, why not? so then comes -- oh, by the way, other p

the first book was called lawyer, about arthur lyman. and then on monday or tuesday they announced the starr report was coming out on friday. before that, at random house i did some been called rabbits, which is i would take a document, dust it off, and publish it, because i could do that. it was a very successful way to do government documents at a time before people could really download them with the same kind of ease. so the wall street journal reporter, a publishing reporter calls me and i am sitting in a tiny conference room and he says, peter, i know you like to do this. will you be publishing the starr report? i say, of course i will be. and then i go back in and say, i'm publishing the starr report. i made a single call. and say, i'm publishing the starr report. i made a single call. i called the washington post where i had worked for many years. i said, if i publish this book, will give me -- and remember this is a long time ago, give me the disc, and your first day coverage, and we will publish it as a book. and they said, why

oh lyman trumbull. lyman trumbull who wrote the 13th amendment who wrote the civil rights act of 1866 who championed the antislavery cause was the colonizationist? and there were several others as well. so so when lincoln supported colonization that the august 14th 1862 meeting with the washington delegation, it wasn't as though he was being unique and his administration in calling for that policy. on top of that there were a number of black people who were colonizationists. and we're also very strong opponents of slavery. naturally, john russ worm. samuel cornish alexander krummel alexander chromell actually lived in liberia james mccune smith james t holly martin delaney who met with lincoln at some length henry highland garnett oh paul cuffee, very wealthy. businessman and shipper all supported colonization especially in the 1850s. black support for emigration to liberia or else haiti where the two main sources of refuge and the 1850s colonization became ever more popular among blacks largely because

host: we would like to thank lyman r. stone for being with us here this morning and talking about his article in national review, "america loses religion, somewhat." washington journal continues. host: w are back with w wall street -- we are back with wall street journal reporter eric morath who will help us make sense of this new jobs report. let's jump into it. there were 559,000 new jobs added in may. what did that number tell us about job creation in the united states? guest: we are recovering from the coronavirus downturn, but the strength of the labor market recovery is not quite there to the degree some might expect. we are seeing overall the economy is growing at a very fast rate. consumer spending is growing. we are seeing other signs of a strong economy and the labor market appears to be lacking behind that pace. they were expecting one million jobs to be added per month and we are not at even half that pace in the recent months. host: i heard a couple callers mentioned so i will ask this question -- the economi

whom i want to leave the farm or recently loan from the radio station that a solution made out of lyman water, which local calls, tuna can actually help protect his apple trees from getting infected with bacterial diseases known as apple blisters was not by me, i live in, we would have trouble with our trees. we would have to travel to know that almost 100 kilometers. now we get information from my radio station and we use that for our benefit. who else would have told us how to fix it? new or? fortunately, i got information from the radio and was able to divide my plants myself. have done . got it done the way he got there. after adding a program about the impact of excessive pesticide and insecticide use that your team noticed changes in local farming practices who he show to do people use minimal amounts of chemicals in the prompts to go. and if you visit the field today, you will see that many problem with understand the harmful side effects of the chemical in the will follow to get a big challenge for the radio is funding grassroots issues don't attract, commotion advertises, never

tunes into whom i want to the farmer recently known from the radio station that a solution made out of lyman water, which local calls tuna can actually help protect his apple trees from getting infected with bacterial diseases known as apple blisters. why never got me up there. when we would have trouble with our trees, we would have to travel to almost 100 kilometers every. now we get information from kim, i need radio station and we use that for our benefit. who else would have told us how to fix it? know fortunately, i got information from the radio and was able to divide my plans. my self have done got he thought he got there after adding a program about the impact of excessive pesticide and insecticide use that he had your team noticed changes in local farming practices for no he sure to do. people use minimal amounts of chemicals in the crops to go and if you visit the field today, you will see that many farmers understand the harmful side effects of the chemical intersect. the site will follow to get a big challenge for the radio is funding grassroots issues don't attract, commotion a

in august 1921, walter lyman brown entered into negotiations with the soviet leaders for food assistance. first, brown insisted that the soviets release all american political prisoners held in soeftd jails, which -- soviet jails, which they did. brown also demanded that the ara would work according to their standard procedures, which were somewhat foreign to the communists. brown insisted that the soviets must permit ara workers, free movement within the country, exemption from services, protection from arrest, and the ara would distribute food based solely on need. and russian workers would be hired solely on the basis of talent. these conditions were difficult for the communists as nothing in russia was done based on mer et -- merit or need. the ara would pay for food in it transportation to the russian board, and at that point, soviet government would pay for storage and transportation for where it was needed. in return, the ara promised to abstain from political activities in russia. the american and soviet representative signed the treaty of riga that defined the ara's responsibili

the first book was called lawyer, about arthur lyman.then on monday or tuesday they announced the starr report was coming out on friday. before that, at random house i did some been called rabbits, which is i would take a document, dust it off, and publish it, because i could do that. it was a very successful way to do government documents at a time before people could really download them with the same kind of ease. so the wall street journal reporter, a publishing reporter calls me and i am sitting in a tiny conference room and he says, peter, i know you like to do this. will you be publishing the starr report? i say, of course i will be. and then i go back in and say, i'm publishing the starr report. i made a single call. and say, i'm publishing the starr report. i made a single call. i called the washington post where i had worked for many years. i said, if i publish this book, will give me -- and remember this is a long time

our spotlight on magazine segment and in this segment, we are going to be talking to lyman r. stone, who is the democrat -- the chief information therefore demographic intelligence and a recent fellow at the institute for family studies. he has written an article called "america loses religion, somewhat" on national review. good morning. guest: good morning, it is good to be with you. host: tell us what demographic intelligence is. guest: demographic intelligence is a population forecasting firm that i run, we forecast birth, population, marriages, anything like that for private, nonprofit, and government entities that need to know what the future will look like. host: you have this great article that in national review called "america loses religion, somewhat." first of all, what prompted you to write this article? guest: a wild back, -- a while back, i wrote about changes in it religiosity over time in the united states. that was motivated by a sense that although we think of religion as an area, religion and government shall not be, changes to the religious fabric in our co

host: our spotlight on magazine segment and in this segment, we are going to be talking to lyman r. stone, who is the democrat -- the chief information therefore demographic intelligence and a recent fellow at the institute for family studies. he has written an article called "america loses religion, somewhat