through the surface but most of the time it's just below the surface kind of simmering and when lyndall campbell was videotaped in his situation with the warren police those floodgates and all that anger came into the public very quickly you know it's interesting when you mention the thing with the steubenville newspaper i just quickly what do you think what do you believe leads to that kind of you know war that we're a local newspaper suddenly no longer believes local residents what what what makes you know what makes that happen what is it why do you believe you know why is that . happening. well it's a couple of things there was a very very vocal police chief that was in charge of the police department he would threaten anybody who criticize the police and the prosecutor was the same way he would charge anybody who made any kind of month's misconduct allegation with making false claims and so there was there was a atmosphere of great fear in the town and nobody wanted to go against the police chief or the prosecutor because of their awesome power to silence people and in warren even though th