so lyndon really felt close to him.and as doris knows-- because she's written about it-- he said "the happiest days of my boyhood was when i would go with my father on the campaign trail." he said "christ, i wish those days would never end." and then his father when he's 13 fails. fails miserably. loses the family ranch. lyndon johnson says we went from the "a" to the "fs." and they became a figure really of ridicule where the merchants wouldn't give the johnson family credit. so lyndon when he went to junior high school would go into the drugstore and the other kids could buy candy and he couldn't buy candy. that marked him for his entire life, i feel. >> rose: wanted to do something about the poor? >> well i hasn't thought... yes, exactly. but his brother once said to me... i'll never forget it. his brother was quite a character and a lot of what he said we can't believe. >> rose: like jimmy carter, like bill clinton. (laughter) >> he said the most important thing for lyndon was not to be like daddy. and i think basic

here, lyndon and i celebrated just last year our 33rd wedding anniversary. the cake that linda planned held our time together one third of a century. it was our grandson's first birthday. like all birthdays the climax is the cake. this one provided us with a household crisis. those sticky little feet and that elegant little louis xvi up holsterry. in the end the furniture didn't suffer one bit, but my nerves did. then there was the christmas of '67. my husband was plunged into a trip around the world. prospects were bleak indeed for a christmas with the whole family together. i followed his headlines from australia to thailand to rome. and then gloriously he came home on christmas eve. that christmas we were seven. two sons-in-law and a new baby. up spoken was the thought that next christmas chuck would not be with us. it was a fragile happiness, like some lovely bubble and i think the room must have sensed it for it was never prettier. it was our first christmas in the white house. a moment to catch and hold. it seemed to underscore my feeling that this hou

the men met here in lyndon and attended lyndon high school.t was shermantine who provided information that led deputies to this site. >> it's shocking. >> can you believe this happened in lyndon? >> no, i can't. it's a nice calm area. i don't think anybody believes it. >> many people knew both of the men suspected of these crimes had been following this case for decades and that makes the news of what is now happening a short distance up this road even more difficult to hear. >> i think everybody was a little shocked that sherman came forward and was actually going to identify. we just figured he would go to his death. >> but long time lyndon resident says, in some ways, what is happening now may have a positive side for both the community and the families of the victims. >> i'm really glad they are finding these people and we knew they were out there. we just didn't know where. and we would have never found him. i think it's good that this is all coming ahead. >> in lyndon, mark sayer, cbs 5. >> we heard original takes from whitney houston to

lyndon's hours vary with his unpredictable. in a while everyone's activities coincide and we gather in the family dining room. >> almost like an english baby. blond hair. >> looks like just about any baby except mine. >> he is a good boy. >> he's an angel. >> looks so much like his daddy. >> food on his chinny. >> sir, do you know exactly what -- >> i thought it was a tractor with a bulldoze we're completes on it. >> that's what i thought. it's not like a tank in a sense that it's very durable, but they're very dangerous sense they've got that four gas tanks. so they're hit, the whole thing goes up. >> it's too hot. >> you know, i think one of our parting gifts at the white house might be an in-residence high chair, permanent. >> lyndon ought to give it, don't you think? wouldn't that be cute, mama? give me my pappy? >> wouldn't you be glad if we get you a high chair so lit be your very own high chair forever? what kind would you like? pretty blight colored ones? >> yes, ma'am. and when i go i'll do find out exactly how much to

they attended lyndon high school.s shermantine himself from behind bars who provided the information which led deputies to this site. >> it is shocking. >> can you believe this happened in len don? >> no, i can't. i don't think anybody believes it. >> in a town this small, many people knew both of the men suspected of these crimes and have been following this case for decades. now makes the news of what is happening a short distance up this road even more difficult to hear. >> everybody was shocked that shermantine came forward and was actually going to, you know, identify. we just figures he would go to his death. everybody wondering what happened. >> but long time lyndon resident says in some ways, what is happening now may have a positive side for both the community and the families of the victims. >> i'm really just glad that they are finding these people and we knew they were out there. we just didn't know where. and we would have never found them. so i think it's good that this is all coming to ahead. >> in lynd

in fact, he received 40% of the vote compared to 50% for lyndon johnson. why was that considered a loss for the president? >> well, because it was such a high percentage to an incumbent president. that was really unusual, and his popularity was on the rise. they were worried about the coming primaries, he might win one. if you can beat an incumbent president in your own party in a primary or get that close in the vote, then it's a real threat to the president. i just -- you know, there was -- i don't know in modern times if thaelgts been done to be that close. so that was -- you know, that was a real fair thrown into lyndon johnson. it may be just something that put the -- it might have been the last straw. he might have had other reasons he didn't want to run again. anyway, that was a close call is what it was. >> what i'd like to do is put a couple of moments from 1968 into perspective and have you react to these moments that led to humphrey's decision to seek the presidency. you talked about the speech that president johnson delivered from the oval offi

chilling stuff here about rose kennedy talking to lyndon johnson.old conversation if you consider the situation. maybe everybody was in shock. you'll hear it in a minute. this is "hardball", only msnbc. [ de ntis t ] chris thinks [ de the best way to live life is to dig right in. but as his dentist, i know that to do that, he needs to use the brush more dentists use. oral-b. trust the brush more dentists and hygienists use. oral-b. life opens up when you do. >>> congresswoman michelle bachmann says she is not negotiating with the romney campaign about endorsing the former massachusetts governor for president. the boston globe reported the talks were under way between the one-time rival camps but bachmann called on "the globe" to retract that report and denied others that said an endorsement of romney was imminent. bachmann's former debate coach moved over to the romney campaign and is credited with helping romney and those two dedebates leading up to last night's victory in florida for him. >>> we're back. >>> we're back. new tapes from president ke

he didn't like being in the same room as lyndon johnson. to history, the viet nam war. a new tape came out november 20, just released, november 20, 1963 two days before the assassination. kennedy had his eye on viet nam. two days before he got killed, talking about what he was going to follow up with the ambassador henry cabot lodge. >> they were going to have a briefing book for me by saturday. i think i ought to be back here until maybe seven, then i have to see cabot. >> what is your sense where we would have gone, we went with 500,000 troops as the complement of troops, subsequent beginning in 65, do you think kennedy would have escalated the way johnson did, made this in an american war. >> i absolutely do not. the evidence is i think growing all the time that john f. kennedy would not have been suckered into viet nam the way lyndon johnson was. i say that make i had written the biography of james forrestal, i used to interview mike. john f. kennedy wanted to plan how to get out of there. there was a feeling it was a lost cause, kenned

he didn't like being in the same room as lyndon johnson.nt in history. that is the vietnam war. a new tape that came out november 20 just released,1963. just two days before the assassination. kennedy had his eye on the situation in vietnam that fall. here is just, as i said, just two days before he got killed, talking about what he was going to follow up with south vietnam. let's listen. >> they were going to have a briefing book for me by saturday. i think i ought to be back here till maybe seven. then i have to see cabot lodge on sunday. what is your sense about where we would have gone? we went with 500,000 troops as our complement of troops over there. subsequent beginning in '65. do you think kennedy would have -- i have my own views. do you think kennedy would have escalated the way johnson did? >> i absolutely do not. the evidence is, i think, growing all the time that john f. kennedy would not have been suckered into vietnam the way lyndon johnson was. i say that was mike forstel. i'd written the book of his father and i used to in

edgar hoover, head of the fbi, and the president, lyndon baines johnson, you had become the assistant attorney general for civil rights, you moved up a notch. >> right. >> and we'll listen to a little bit of this and you can explain to people what they're hearing. >> mr. president -- >> yeah. >> -- i wanted to let you know we found the car. >> yeah. >> now, this is not known. nobody knows this at all. but the car was burned. and we do not know yet whether any bodies are inside of the car because of the intense heat that still is in the area of the car. the license plates on the car are the same that was on the car that was in philadelphia, mississippi, yesterday. and apparently this is off to the side of the road. it wasn't going toward meridian, but it was going in the opposite direction. now, whether there are any bodies in the car, we won't know until we can get into the car ourselves. we've got agents, of course, on the ground and as soon as we get definite word i'll, of course, get word to you. but i did want you to know apparently what's happened these men have been killed. alth

she referred to lyndon johnson as mr. president. it shows that even in that moment of great crisis for her personally, remember, we're going through this as a nation, she's going through it at a very different level, she remembers to refer to johnson as mr. president. it's a very short conversation. it's a little bit awkward. probably she had other things on her mind. that's kind of what i thought. >> there are two copies of these recordings. you have one, and you've donated one to the national archives. can you explain? >> when clifton left the white house he had two identical copies made. why that's the case, there's no one alive who could tell you. which is interesting in and of itself. maybe he wanted to write a book. his name is all over the tapes. so maybe he just wanted a record kept for his own posterity. we felt it was important not only to donate the tape to the national archives so that the american people would have the exact piece that we have but also the information really was not proprietary to us, but that the ameri

nnedy calling in and talking with lyndon johnson. we're able to kind of do a recreation.bviously what people are looking for is who killed kennedy. i think the big question still remaining is why did oswalddo it. and why did, for example, when oswald was arrested and he was interrogated by police,hy wasn't that tape. why was so security so lax that jack rub can shoot him. these are burninguestions that american people have. we're approaching charlie the 50th anniversary in november 2013 of the kennedy assassination. tom hank is working on an hbo documentary, a long one about all of this. i know a number of very good authors th are working on books dealing with this. so i think in the next year or too we're going to be relooking at that day because along with 9/11 and pearl harbor where people don't forget where the were. >> charlie: when you look at all of this, what do you feel about the motivation of lee harvey oswald and any connection to either cuba or the mob. >> well, i've always, i mean norman mailer wrote an unusual book trying to go to minsk and follow what a osw

. >> adams was just 19 years old then trying to make it from lyndon to oakdale when headlights came upast from behind. >> i went and thought it was a road rage situation. >> when she reached the stop sign, the nervous teen slammed to a halt, hoping the raging drivers would pass. the driver and his passenger left out of the blue van, charging for her car. the driver with something in his hand. >> he had something huge, wood almost in his hand. it was not a baseball bat. it was almost like an ax handle, if you will, and as i'm watching him, i cannot get across the traffic. >> it was flee or flight for the terrified teen. she chose flight at top speed as traffic cleared. for decades, adams buried the horrifying night, until -- >> the other day, i saw on the news, a picture of him what he looked like in the 90s and i almost buckled. >> there was her tormenter, one-half of the murderous killers. adam's only saving grace was that herzog committed suicide last month. but there was no one to save chevy wheeler and cindy. in the last five days, both were discovered buried in graves. the other h

he claims lyndon is all herzog's party area, not mine. i've never been to any of his parties. >> here's the thing. i can't just say, okay, here's the money. and what do i do with it? i can't send it to him on death row. >> padilla is willing to pay up once appropriate arrangements are made. but now that investigators have dug 50 feet deep. >> they completed the original well. we're done with that. they are going to start filling that well. they have been searching the area, looking for the second well. >> but won't say if the more than 1,000 bone fragments are human bones or animals. leaving open the question whether the surviving speed free killer is correctly leading investigators or writing for another thrill. >> and there is more, get this, shermantine writes in a p.s. that the speed free killers had no role in the disappearance of heyward'smy kayla garrett, but he goes on to say herzog hunted people in modesto. more victims or is that a ploy for more money? either way, the bounty hunter you see in tonight's story says he is expecting

derek shore is in lyndon, where we're getting a first look at the area where investigators appear tod victims of the so-called speed freak serial killers. derek? >> reporter: another day of searching and another day of discovery. more bones found by deputies out here, as they continue to search this area of lyndon, now known as lauren herzog's graveyard. and as we get a first look at the video, i've got to warn you that you may indeed see some of those bones in the video. now, as we take a look at it, it really does look more like an archaeological dig than a crime scene. members of the san joaquin sheriff's department and the department of justice are digging, taking piles of dirt one by one to locate more bones and more evidence. already today, they say they have located what appears to be a leg bone and a woman's shoe. but at this point, deputies will not estimate just how many different victims they think they may have located so far. now, all likely victims of who are known as the speed freak killers, lauren herzog and wesley shermantine, leading from death row. herzog killed hi

and congressman brooks and lyndon johnson were in the motorcade in downtown dallas. november 22nd when president kennedy was assassinated. president johnson went back to the airplane air force one. he took the oath of office. the presidency, with jack brooks and other people looking on. in that year of '64 after the assassination, after kennedy -- i mean after johnson became president, the civil rights bill was brought forward. and with president johnson's leadership and the leadership of others including jack brooks, they brought that bill to fruition. i believe it was signed july the 2nd, 1964. that changed everything. in the south and the united states with respect to segregation. that broke the back of segregation in the south. it was a huge step for johnson and brooks and other americans. brooks was one of 11 southern congressmen who voted for it. all the other southerners -- brooks was a major player in this huge change. he went with johnson the next year in the voting acts riots of '65 and the housing act of 1968. so jack brooks who's featured here on this sta

if lyndon johnson ainru why you think he would or would not have won the election? >> that's a tough one. i think that that's the kind of question that can't be answered except to say that his election would have depended on the war as well, i believe. he might have been more adamant about ending it or fintiding so way to not have the war work against him if he had run. he might have had better luck that way. and i don't know if he would have won. it would have been really interesting. i think it would have still been a close election. this was in such con start to 1964 when he won before vietnam was really an issue. this is also makes it clear how vietnam had become the decisive issue. in 1964, he went some 43 of 50 states or something along those lines. if the north vietnam meche saw a divided government that can be used against him, so he had to still serve the president as vice president. he had johnson tells him he would cut all the funds and everybody -- and all the support he had, what little support he had if he came out against the war. he had at least a ha

he was very close to speaker sam rayburn, and also to majority leader of the senate, lyndon b. johnson, who was later vice president and then president of the united states. in working with lyndon johnson, jack brooks voted for some very important and controversial new laws, especially the civil rights act in 1964. before this law in 1964, there was widespread discrimination and segregation against black people in the united states, especially in the southern united states. black people were barred from going in restaurants and cafes, motels, and movie theaters. they could work there, but weren't welcome as customers or clients. there was widespread discrimination. many people thought that should be changed. during the year of 1963, proposw civil rights law, and he was doing this in part based on rising tensions in the south, especially in birmingham, alabama. and president kennedy in his administration introduced a sweeping civil rights bill, but now, and wasn't being passed. there was opposition from the south and other people, and then they made the trip to dallas. president

but the senate also was a check on -- attempted to be a check on lyndon johnson and richard nixon, on vietnam. and other excesses of executive power. the key is, it was a progressive senate. it was no longer the graveyard of progressive dreams, and you would find these senators i write about were involved in every piece of social legislation, moving forward in that period. deeply involved. >> okay. now, let me ask you this question. in 1980, as we know, ronald reagan won a handslide victory over president carter. and the democrats went from 58-member majority down to 46. a huge landslide, not only in the presidential election but in senate elections as well. i think many people might be thinking, when you look at the title of your book, "the last great senate." if these guys were so great, why did they get their heads handed to them by by public? you thought they were great but apparently in 1980 the american people didn't think they were so great, or is that not a fair question? >> of course it's a fair question. there were a number of elements at work there. to some extent it was a

we're not going to debate him, and nixon said the debate is with lyndon johnson. he wouldn't mention the opposition. he's a good man, but my quarrel is with lyndon johnson. it was frus freighting to romney. we had private polls showing us to beat him 5-6 to 1. in a contested primary, we get about 75% of the vote and he gets 15%. so he was getting polls that showed he was going to get clobbered, so he got out. that's when the ball was for rockefeller. you have to do this yourself. rockefeller had problems at the time. he got up and announced, i'm not running. >> personal problems. >> tim, we'll go to you next. >> hi, pat. tim from ohio. i'm curious to get your perspective on the 1970 kent state shootings that left four students dead and nine injured. i'm curious how that affected nixon's public image, if at all. >> that was one of the speeches i worked on, was the cambodian incursion or what they called invasion. we went in 630 kilometers for 30 days to clean out the vietcong base camps in cambodia. i think that speech was on april 30th, 1970. 1970, right. and the

lyndon johnson tipped off police to new clues. his body was found last week. >> pfizer is recalling 1 million packets of 28 packaging pills. this has inadequate hormone levels that could lead to pregnancy. >> no more sleeping on mcpherson square. park police officers are keeping an eye on the camp. so far no enforcement. we're live to explain why. >> right now all of this is caught up in semantics. take a look at the sign, and it clearly says camping prohibited. look around here, and it looks like people are camping. but apparently a tent is not the camp unless you are sleeping in it. >> ofprotesters appeared inspired today by a small court victory. a judge has ruled park police will not be allowed to evict the protesters without a hearing and even then they must get at least 24 hours warning. to go i think that is a huge victory for us. the ruling comes just days after park police were expected to begin sweeping tents. the judge ruled park police cannot remove the tent because they're considered personal property. >> that is real

incident, this time an accident going to affect traffic on maryland 32, that's going to be between lyndon church. that's in the clarksville region, the accident is blocking both lanes westbound and eastbound of 32, we will keep you updated with this. if you need to get around it, maybe pin oaks road or green berry. those are alternates to get around the situation. volume is increasing. not bad on the south side of 695, bw parkway traffic building in the southbound lane as you make your way towards the capital beltway. at the west side of 695, pretty much outer loop lanes, 795, frederick road rs starting to build. no extra drive time needed so far. with reokay if you are heading out in next few minutes from 795 to 70, a p 7- minute drive. topside, 6 minutes from bel air to providence road. >>> breaking news. update on a deadly crash in harford that killed three siblings. route 543, near churchville. half a mile from wheel road. linda so is standing by with the new details that she has learned while responding with the hospital helicopter. >> this says two helicopters responded to the scene

to salute the glenns with vice president lyndon johnson. as the president of the united states arrives at cape canaveral, to be greeted with john and a cheers of thrilled l of proud americans, incemonies center, president john f. kennedy presents the distinguished service medal to john glenn. as annie and david glenn proudly share applause with the other astronauts and with the world. as john's parents learn firsthand about friendship 7, as does marine corps general david m. shoop and the president of the united states. and this rainy day in washington is a happy day as the president and the astronaut arrive. to drive through rain-washed crowd-flooded streets for a reception as john and annie glenn with vice president lyndon johnson greet distinguished guests, including alan shepard. god speed, john glenn. god speed into the future. into the hearts of all americans. welcome to washington. welcome back to this planet. from the nation's capital to the towers of manhattan to the ticker tape parade of new york, cheering crowds roar a mighty wel

they found more remains again today near the town of lyndon.ear san andreas. linda yee on the search for victims of the speed freak serial killers. >> reporter: a leg bone and a woman's show. other bones of different sizes, teeth and skull fragments. more gruesome discoveries by forensic teams digging at a cattle ranch near lyndon. >> we're coming to sift through the piles of dirt, screen them into buckets and rescreen them and then see what we come what's left on the top side of the screen. >> reporter: the remains are all likely victims of the two men called the speed freak killers for a methamphetamine- fueled killing spree, as many as 15 victims. scott smith described the dig site their they are going through on their hands and knees and combing through the dirt with their fingers and removing the large bones and shoes and other items that they found in there. it's a horrible scene t makes you want to cry. >> reporter: death

they are also eska vateing a well outside the town of lyndon with plans to move to a second -- eska vateing a well -- eska vateing a well -- escavating a well outside the town of lin don, with plans to move to a second one as well -- lyndon, with plans to move to a second one as well. >> they are so committed. we have to tell the officials to go home and get rest. >> shermantine and his partner works committed suicide last month -- partner, who committed suicide last month -- >> we're people, too, we have loved ones. as a father, i just can't imagine. you want to do everything possible to help bring closure to these families. >> officials have positively identified a second victim as 16-year-old chevy wheeler. she disappeared in 1985 after running off with shemp -- shermantine. one woman believes she was almost a victim when two men in a blue van is chased her down a country road and i -- and approached her car on countryside. >> i just want wanted to tell this story -- i just want to tell this story because maybe it will help the police figure out how they got girls. they were so brazen. t