and the president at the time was a democrat, lyndon b. johnson. so if you were against the war, as most americans at that point were -- this is the gallop polling on the war -- the number of people who thought it was a mistake -- if you were against the war as increasingly everybody was, you were so the psyched to vote for lbj's successor. so the democrats were losing their appeal in the south because of racism, and they were losing the anti-war vote. the republican candidate tried to take advantage of that split, and was this handsome devil. nixon in 1968 was running against a democratic party that he knew was split. he was, in response, pledging to get rid of the draft. and he claimed to have a plan to end the war. he argued that if you wanted the war to end, you needed to elect him. you needed to vote the democrats out of office because clearly lbj and his party, the democrats and the democratic party, hubert humphry had no idea how to end the war. when you needed was total change at the white house. the democrats had to go to nixon could come

but lyndon johnson knew nixon, the bbc ran the tape this is week that nixon communicated with the vietnamesestall the peace process so he could get elected. he consorted. they have johnson on tape saying nixon committed treason. what are we going to do? he decided to do nothing and not tell the american people. the republicans wouldn't play that way. they don't play that way. we play that way. >> what do you do about the gun manufacturers? this all comes down in the end to the gun manufacturemanufacturers. they are the ones making tons of money. the fastest selling biggest weapons in sandy hook, the ar-15 this is a sick reaction from a so-called civilized society, a super power. the idea is everybody goes to buy the same weapon. what's wrong with people? >> there is a ton of money being made now. the gun shop near where i live in michigan. five months ago was selling .45 bullets for $19 a box. it's $59 a box now. they are making money -- >> running out of ammunition. they can't make enough. >> right. >> they can't make enough. they are financing the nra. that means there is more money now fo

what i remember i'm the oldest on the panel, lyndon johnson had the war on poverty and the war on hunger. the war on hunger seems to have been won overwhelmingly because we now have a war on obesity. either the kids are not fed enough or too much. something is wrong with this picture. >> neil: and-- >> the number of people collecting food stamps is surprisingly pretty much exactly in line with the number of people who are actually poor in this country. and setting aside the people that ben taught at uc santa cruz and we know about them. but the fact of the matter is, charlie makes a great point, the real economy, which is not something you're going to see in tv studio in scottsdale arizona or new york city, if you drive out and actually go out into the world, you discover there are a lot of people hurting out there. for a little while, yes, it's going to take a long time to get them back to full employment. dagen is right about the unemployment's coming down, but the real unemployment rate is actually quite high. >> and that number-- >> want to step back-- yes, it has. >> neil: dagen. >>

what i d i'm the oldest on the panel, is that lyndon johnson had the war on panel and war on hunger.n hunger seems to have been won overwhelmingly because we have a war on obesity. something is going on. either the kids are not being fed enough or being fed too much. something is going wrong here. >> the number of people collecting food stamps is surprisingly pretty much exactly in line with the number of people actually poor in this country. setting aside the people that ben taught at u.c. santa cruz. we know about them. the fact of the matter, charlie makes a great point. the real economy which is not something you are going to see in scottsdale, arizona or new york city. if you drive out and go out into the world, you discover there are a lot of people hurting out there. yes, it's going to take a long time to get them back to full unemployment. dagen is right about unemployment coming down but the real unemployment rate is quite high. >> that number has fallen. it has come down. >> from 15 to 14? >> let's make it very clear. this program continues to grow and should shrink and bec

about adam lanza. >> so you do see the show. >> watch both shows, they are great, but -- but lyndon johnsonnew that nixon, the pbc ran these tapes this week that nixon communicated with the vietnamese to try and stall the peace process so that he could get elected. he actually consorted. they have johnson on tape saying nixon has committed treason. what are we going to do and he decided to do nothing and not tell the american people. you know, the republicans wouldn't play that way. they don't play that way. we play that way. >> what about the gun manufacturers? this all comes down to in the end the gun manufacturers. they are the ones making tons of money. >> right. >> the fastest selling, biggest selling weapons since sandy hook, the ar-15 used by adam lanza. this is a sick reaction from a supposed civilized society, from a superpower. >> yes. >> the only reaction to the slaughter of children with this weapon is that everybody goes and buys the same weapon. who is wrong with people? >> a ton of money is being made right now. the gun shop near where i live in michigan was selling 45 bullet

when republicans couldn't beat lyndon johnson, they ran barry goldwater, when the democrats couldn'tchard nixon they ran george mcgovern. not that they didn't believe those men, they just didn't

in 1964 the word around school was kerschner voted for lyndon johnson, and had he ever cast a mainstream vote for fear that a victory of a conservative republican barry goldwater became fashioned into america. in elliot's opinion that fear was overblown. increasingly appalled by the school's ideological slant elliott began to vocalized his own political views. he debated his classmates in the basement cafeteria. is chief opponent was tom hurwitz. is equal in intellectual precocity and love of a good fight, the impromptu discussions often ended in shouting matches between the two. a hot topic was cuba and fidel castro who had come to power in 1959. most students are him as a romantic revolutionary bringing economic and social justice to his people. elliott saw him as another standard issue communist dictator. angela davis was in the class of 1961. that class included robert deniro for untimely. they lived in the village and kathy levine who later became involved in the 1981 -- took part in the brinks robbery in which a guard and two police men were killed and served many years in prison f

that is one of the great things about lyndon johnson's speech.everybody remembers that he duringwe shall overcome" the selma march. he said there are times when destiny and freedom come together in a single moment, and that was as it was in appomattox during the civil war, and so it was in selma. johnson is welcoming a black-led movement, from the revolution to the civil war, but to the vanguard of it, a non-violent movement, saying this is showing us what our principles mean, and that is a very, very profound and radical memory, and i think people want to forget that as much as they want to sanitize martin luther king. tavis: yes. tell us about the 18. you have whittled them down. you picked 18 historical moments that basically turned this country during the civil rights era. i know we cannot go through all of them. my question i guess is how you settled on these 18 monumental moments in our history. >> well, first of all, i have to say that since i had to eliminate 95% of what i wrote, there was a lot of blood on the floor, and it was not easy.

1965, lyndon johnson's administration was spending on both a war and a great society without raisinges. the fed was left to fight the resulting inflation alone. the nation's central bank, originally created to protect the banking system against panics, acquired more power to affect the economy than even it imagined at the outset. the federal reserve: does money matter? with the help of economic analyst richard gill, we'll explore that question on economics usa. i'm david schoumacher. coins, bills, checks-- our basic money supply. the amount of money and where it goes wiin the banking system has been the main concern of our nation's central bank. at the fed's headquarters here in washington, dc, closed deliberations are held by experts who continuously monitor our financial health and prescribe remedies. how did these experts prescribe a remedy that plunged us even deeper into the great depression? early in the 20th century, american banks operated with little regulation and great vulnerability. in 1907, that vulnerability became apparent when depositors lost confidence and demanded t

when republicans couldn't beat lyndon johnson after the kennedy assassination they ran barry goldwaterrats couldn't beat richard nixon they ran george mcgovern. not that they didn't believe in those men.

when republicans couldn't beat lyndon johnson, they ran barry goldwater, when the democrats couldn'tixon they ran george mcgovern.

but i believe lyndon johnson was right, we shall overcome. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> splitsville on the right. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. i watched the conservatives at their convention today and was impressed by the strong response to mitt romney. they seem stuck on him. as we used to say, stuck on mitty, they like him, still like him enough to give him a good welcome today. this guy who lost an election he and many others thought they had made. so what this tells me is they really haven't adjusted to the verdict of the american people. they're still back there with santorum and trump and those others on the crazy wagon of right wing talk that basically turned off the country last year. i'm talking specifically about the horror show known as the republican primary season. it was a winter of discontent followed by a spring of crazy and a summer of is that all there is? here we have in march of 2013 and the talk of hillary on the democratic side and talk of

he voted for lyndon johnson in the presidential election the first time so the whispers went that he ever cast such a mainstream coach for fear that a victory -- for the conservative republican barry goldwater would bring fascism to america. in eliot's opinion that was a bit overblown. increasingly appalled by the school's ideological slant, eliot began to vocalize his own political view to the he debated with his classmates in the basement cafeteria his chief opponent to the component was paul horowitz. his equal and intellectual in love of the good fight to the impromptu discussions often ended in shouting matches between the two. a hot topic in the lunchroom debate was cuba and the leader fidel castro who had come to power in 1959. most students saw castro as a romantic revolutionary bringing economic and social justice to his people. elite viewed him as another standard issue communist dictator. angela davis, mr. protagonist, was in the class of 1961. the class included robert deniro for a time. his parents were artists that lived in the village, and kathy that later became invol

lyndon johnson. ronald reagan, bill clinton, a famous shmoozer. i think it will serve him better than the previous strategy which went out in the country and said the sky is falling and the sky still with us. >> it is interesting. it's a switch. policy and everythin everybody g an eye on t thanks for being with us, john. great t to see you. >> eric. >>> we have a fox news extreme weather alert. another winter storm slamming the central part of the country. the system caused a mess in denver. look at this. it forced a lot of airlines to cancel hundreds of flights. you know how big a hub denver is. it makes driving difficult on the roads. now what you're looking at right there, it is moving across the country. who's next? meteorologist maria molina with the latest live in the fox weather center. hi, maria. >> hi, eric. good to see you. good morning, everyone. we're tracking a winter storm that's expected to durha dump me snow across sections of the plains as we head into tuesday. we've got several days we need to track the storm. it actually produce

in 1964, president lyndon johnson appointed you to the newly established equal employment opportunity commission. there were five commissioners. >> right. >> you were the only woman. what was that experience like? >> very interesting. to say the least. that was not unusual. there were not too many women in any place in washington in those days, or in most of the other organizations either. but i was doing this in san francisco, essentially, but without anything related to women. we didn't have a law in san francisco that gave us the right to look at issues about women. but i have been doing much of it, and i was really surprised that so many people were so much unaware of what was going on in terms of women's opportunities to keep going up the ladder like the men were giving me opportunities to do. >> after the eoc, you moved on to the national organization for women. n.o.w. how did that come about? because you served as president. >> well, i was going to say, it didn't exist. what happened was we helped put it into place. and, again, i found mrs. roosevelt there because it was her co

i can't imagine 550,000 american soldiers fighting a gradualist war under anyone except lyndon johnson. >> well, i'll agree with you by then. at that point, yes. 1961, i think, would have played out quite differently. >> fortunately -- >> we have history we have. >> we do. >> you think that the kennedy assassination is a major turning point. >> i think it was the worst thing that ever happened to richard nixon. he had had a really, as we talked about, a really traumatic loss in 1960. he ran for governor in 1962 with the urging of eisenhower among others, a terrible mistake on his part. nixon had a long and detailed memo setting forth the pros and cons, should i run, not run? the cons clearly won the argument with nixon, but he could see the temptation. okay, rockefeller's governor of the biggest state, rockefeller was his chief rival in 1960. i could be the governor of the second biggest state. everyone said he couldn't lose, and he lost. he lost in a big way. but in many ways people say it wasn't that big a deal for him. he didn't really care, he didn't really want the job, didn't car

or lyndon johnson in his first day, addressing the grieving nation. images send impressions and they often send signals. richard nixon going to china to reach out to communist nation. or john kerry going to iraq to speak frankly to the nation. sometimes the gestures are mentioned to dispel notions like rand paul use rag filibuster to say republicans aren't about defense at all cost. president obama holding private dipper at the white house to remind israeli he still cares. both easing suspension. that's why you have to get them in the same room before you get them on the same page. little things lead to big things. sometimes just seeing a new president like gerald ford making his own breakfast is all you need at the white house. to show scandal weary americans there is change at the white house. such images don't always last but never let it be said in the moment they don't count. that is not to say that waving to the crowd mys more crowd but it says there is a new noppope intown. they they you never get a second chance to make a first impression. but

we have to see where the tide turned, civil rights law signed by lyndon johnson. said i lost the south for a generation. if you peel back what he's trying to say, anyone against this idea of diversity is going to flee the democratic party and go to the republican party. since the signing of this law, democrats have had a difficult time penetrating that bloc of the south states of the traditional southern states. and racial tension isn't part of that bloc. if the republican party really wants to move forward in terms of having diversity, it needs to acknowledge, acknowledge, not say this is who we are, but acknowledge that that part of our history is who still continues to make up a small fraction of the republican party. we're not going to allow these people to be there anymore. a cnn employee who has had shells thrown at her and called a monkey. had they gone on stage and said this is not tolerated here at the rnc, we would not embrace these people. but they didn't do that. they ignored it. >> with all the other stories going on, you may have missed this one. thi

one recalls, anderson, in a robert carol book on lyndon johnson, as a democratic president, he calledcan leader almost every day at 5:00. they talked for a half hour. it made a huge difference. they reconciled their differences on the civil rights of '64 and '65. it made a difference in building a supermajority and republican support. it's not happened with this white house. it's been a weakness with this white house. again, if they are trying to make up for it now, let's applaud them. right on. the country needs what you are doing now. >> peter, has there been outreach by republicans toward the white house? is it all just have to be a one-way street? >> there's some positive noises from republicans. the question is, what leverage does the president have over republicans? it's a very strange moment. most republican members of congress are more worried about their right flank than their left flank. most americans think they are too extreme, they are worried about tea party primary challenges. this phenomenon to republicans scared so many people it makes it very difficult to go and agre

as his chief of staff says to him, we could blackmail lyndon johnson on what lyndon johnson did in thenixon says i don't care what you have to do, fire bomb the safe, break in, do whatever you have to do to get the documents. for two weeks he goes back to that time and time again on the tapes. have you gotten the documents. i don't care what you have to do. that's richard nixon as president. were there estimatable acts in his presidency? yes. the opening of china is the great one. he had a remarkable mind. if you read his books, read his analysis of charles, for instance, he would have been a great political journalist. his analysis and wonderful writing. this is a man of real intellect. what watergate is and what it represents is the whole american system worked. maybe for the last time. the press did its job, got this stuff out there and in response, the congress and the united states undertook a great investigation. it voted the senate 77-0 to investigate the president of the united states in his campaign activities. it was a bipartisan investigation. it found out what richard nixon

lyndon johnson used forceful hints on leadership to produce historic civil rights legislation and a 25% income tax came just six weeks after the assassination of president kennedy. he cajoled, he hugged, he thanked, he threatened, he praised and even a hands-on leader designate 1030 the stories johnson grabbing people by the shoulder and getting rid of their grill to make them realize how important was to get this done with this kind of leadership we do today. or how about my dad in the fall of the earth as the soviet empire was collapsing from a significant that there be violence that are portions. the united states as a victory dance over the soviets, particularly when the berlin wall fell. i never forget my dad on tv and the pundits all saying we should celebrate with the german people. how did i get done with the people at the hearing that wanted to do rather than be a leader, he could create greater vulnerabilities for gorbachev to create an orderly transfer without bloodshed. amazingly so. if the leadership of the 20th century style without a drop of blood. it was an amazing feat

federal government's re-dedication to the war on poverty declared four years earlier by president lyndon johnson but never fully funded and to hopefully restore the nonviolence and social justice organizer which had lost ground considerably and then calls for any means necessary. i will read my first excerpt here in ways that capture why it's so important and how it's been treated up to this point by most scholars and the public memory. the same the most ambitious campaign undertaken by king in the southern christian leadership conference. the campaign king didn't live to see has been dismissed by journalists, scholars, biographers and even some activists as either irrelevant or disastrous. one former official referred to the campaign as little big horn of the civil rights movement and eye-catching but rather precise analogy because it isn't clear who feed lakota and general custer are in that movie intact. it often was with symbolism. it didn't spark a war on poverty or nonviolent strategy and it did not achieve many of the stated goals including the new deal style jobs program. yet a closer lo

and thee mid '60s advent of lyndon johnson's great society, we kicked the can down the road 70 times. we have raised the debt limit over 70 times. we have 535 individual pepyses. we need term limits. sequestration is the version of a "time out." host: thank you for the call. this on our twitter page -- the president using his weekly address to take aim at congress and is using it to work out an agreement wit. here is more for president obama. [video clip] >> it sounds like you're saying this is a republican problem. >> give me an example of what i might do. what i am suggesting is i put forward a plan that calls for serious spending cuts, serious entitlement reforms, goes right at the problem that is at the heart of a long-term deficit problem. i have offered negotiations around that kind of balanced approach. so far we have gotten rebuffed because we cannot to any revenue. we cannot do a dime's worth of revenue. what more do you think i should do? i just want to clarify. if people have a suggestion -- this is a room full of smart folks. >> that was the president in his news conferenc

lyndon johnson only had one cock is a year. had in january. -- lyndon johnson had one caucus a year. he had in january. people say, we want to have more caucuses. now we have several of week. now it is a pep rally. do you know what they just did? now we will do this. and it is a back and forth. everyone is charged and energized and ready to take on each other hunger games style. that is one. , but it hasparency a downside. all of the media scrutiny, even today, it makes people climb out. they do not want to say anything in front of the camera that they can possibly get in trouble with. everyone is very reserved. you cannot really be honest with your colleagues in you have all of this -- i remember we had to go through a terrible chapter of impeachment. we have the cameras on during the day. workshop the cameras off late in the afternoon around 6 p.m. or so -- we shut the cameras off late in the afternoon around 6 p.m. or so. ifwas more candid and honest there were no cameras. we still have no record of what thereid that night,

senator alexander said obama must also go against the grain in his own party as much as lyndon johnsonrights. >> stephanie: we have a dusty jingle for that. >> thanks for playing really bad analogy! [ applause ] >> stephanie: thank you for playing in my box. >> i ain't going anywhere near your box. >> stephanie: you just found a little magic. amy from chicago. >> caller: hi, guys i was thinking about those grinder ads you have been reading this morning. >> craigslist. >> stephanie: craigslist. >> caller: i'm sorry you are right. >> stephanie: grinder is not for the kids. >> caller: well, know. i was thinking maybe it is a big ploy to convert the gays or out them, punish them. >> stephanie: hum. >> caller: i don't know. >> stephanie: it's har -- only dr. keith a-blow can figure that out. >> is grinder sort for organ grinder does that doesn't sound like much fun. >> stephanie: no. chuck from atlanta. >> caller: i'm kind of exasperated with these gop -- but also i am a little exasperated with the liberals too. you know why? because all of this stuff stems around the fact that we allow the

see where the tide really turned, right, and that was 1964, civil rights law being signed by lyndon johnsons to paraphrase him, i've lost the south for the generation, meaning the democrats have lost south for a generation, and if you really peel back what he's trying to say is that anyone who was against his idea of diversity is going to free the democratic party and go to the republican party, and since the signing of this law democrats have had a very difficult time penetrating that bloc of the south states, of the traditional southern states, and racial tension is part that have block. now if the republican party really wants to move forward in terms of having didversitdivers needs to acknowledge, not say that that's who we are, acknowledge that that part of the history is continuing to make up a small partial of the republican party. a cnn employee had shells thrown at her and called a monkey had. they said this kind of attitude is not tolerated here at the rnc, we would not continue to embrace those kinds of people. they ignored it, and i hope they don't ignore this because that's not

lyndon johnson's achievements were in reality only a function of the congressional election results.d 1968, after he lost 48 democrats in the house, he was a midget. joining the panel now, what an intro there. msnbc contributor and queen bee of the guru.com, joy reid. let's start with the lunch and dinner. bipartisan rose chicken, answer to our dreams, or is this just an optical illusion? >> i don't get it. this is the reason people hate washington. is it really the case only thing members of congress, period, all they need is a hug and a lunch? you know, feed me dinner, treat me like i'm special. president obama's not their mom. why do they need all this love and affection to do their job? i find this story so infuriating and annoying. politics is supposed to be adversarial. we have two parties for a reason. i think this narrative and it's partly because it's a processed story we in the media love it too, whether they hate each other, golf together, friends, bffs, look who's christie's friend and not these senators. i find it all annoying. >> okay, shutting the door on compromise, j

>> it's extraordinary behavior for this president because i'm going to say lyndon johnson, bill clinton, to name a couple of the democratic presidents who were always on the phone with or talking to or you know, going person to person with not only democratic members of congress, but republican members of congress, and constant communication, president obama seems to be more solitary kind of individual. he's said to, now, he has dinner with his family and he retires upstairs and reads official documents, that's the way he does his work. so, it's quite unusual for him to have dinner with the republicans and he's talking about sending out very top level people in the administration, even gathering some republican where he's saying, gee, we really want entitlement reform, we want this stuff after he's been flailing them, lambasting them. >> and president obama-- >> i think it's president obama who is frustrated because what he thought was going to happen didn't happen and he doesn't quite know what to do next so he hits the left hook, hits a right hook, he's going out in all directions and

even though the pentagon papers, secret history of the wars, was about the war that lyndon johnson got, nixon felt threatened by. nixon felt there was a breach of security and so when. and certainly this counterculture, he had, he just didn't get it. it was alien to them so i don't think it in some ways it didn't affect them. i think the 1960 democratic convention, i think he saw as a great political opportunity. he really didn't have much contact with the counterculture. his children didn't either. julie and tricia -- david had friends at amherst were sort of part of it. they made fun of him. and julie had friends but it was not part of their lives. it hit him like a stun gun you could almost say when he was president. >> he did a good job on laughing though. >> he was coached by a guy that nixon met when he is on the jack paar program. and he was sort of an outlet in the world of comedy. he was a real republican. you can see the outtakes, nixon said socket to me. and, finally, said sock it to me. it might've helped him win the election. >> now, one of the things again, you this perio

lyndon johnson used forceful hands-on leadership that produced historic civil rights legislation and a 25% across-the-board income tax cut in just six weeks after the assassination of president kennedy. he cajoled, he hugged, he'd beg, he threatened, he'd praised and he did what a hands-on leader does in his hands were huge. the stories about johnson grabbing people by the shoulders to make them realize how important was to get things done was a sign of leadership that we need today. or how about my dad and managing the fall of darren kirton? as the soviet empire was collapsing there was a significant danger that there would be violence. the united states justifiably had done a victory dance over the soviets particularly for example when the berlin wall fell. i will never forget watching my dad on tv and the pundits were all saying we should go over there and celebrate with the german people. had my dad done with the people of the here and now want us to do rather than be a figure he could have created greater vulnerabilities for garbage or a -- gorbachev to create an orderly transfe

lyndon johnson used forceful and some leadership to produce historic civil rights legislation the income tax cut in just six weeks after the assassination of president kennedy mix to 80 dead and threatened and praised and did what a hands-on leader does and his hands were huge and the stories about johnson grabbing people by the shoulder and just getting right in their grill to make them realize a one part and it was. how about my dad and the managing of the fall of the iron curtain as the soviet empire was collapsing there were significant dangers that there would be violence of epic proportions to be the the united states could have justifiably done a victory dance over the soviets, particularly for example when the berlin wall fell. i will never forget watching my dad on tv and critics, the pundits were saying he should go over there and celebrate with the german people. had my dad done with the people of this year and now wanted to do rather than being a leader would have created greater fall more abilities for gorbachev to create an orderly transfer without will blood shed. amazingl

washington's pro-israeli policy was born with president lyndon b. johnson starting to send money and arms to the jewish state. 11 years later, the leaders of first world enemies israel and egypt signed the camp david accords after two weeks of intense negotiations led by president jimmy carter. the palestinians never give up their desire for self- determination. their frustration spilled out in the late 1980's with a desperate uprising against israeli occupation. that conflict ended in 1993 with the signing of the oslo accords. >> all the peoples of the middle east deserve the blessings of peace. >> for the first time, there was mutual recognition between israel and the palestinians. u.s. president bill clinton looked on as yasser arafat and israeli leaders shook hands. nevertheless, prospects for peace were shaken when palestinian extremists intensified their campaign of terror. for its part, israel broke with accords by refusing to dismantle settlements in the west bank and gaza strip. washington changed its middle east chad agee following the attacks of

his ph.d thesis contained widely influential book, dereliction of duty, lyndon johnson, robert mic, the joint chiefs mic, the joint chiefs of staff, and the lies that led to vietnam. i think the title gives you some idea of his appetite for straight talk. is equally known for brilliance as a combat commander, earning a silver star for leadership in the 1991 gulf war, and even wider recognition for his enormously influential success in the battle of tal afar in the iraq war. in the rest of the war he was back and forth between field command and increasingly important staff position, culminating in his role as a leader of general petraeus is brain trust in developing and applying new doctrine on counterinsurgency operations. so we have i think two people who can really help us examine, help us not turn the page to send. and let me start, invite general mcmaster to share his thoughts on the critical lessons that he sees. >> thank you so much. of course, there so many lessons in our military is obviously over the past 12 years, wars in both afghanistan and in iraq, adapted to what initially

you look at what lyndon johnson was able to do and he was just leaving the senate in the 1957 soberride he worked people constant -- civil rights act. he worked people constantly. you find the guy and you find what will be a good deal or a trade that will make it happen and the president, from the beginning of his term, has seemed completely not interested in moving legislation that way. it does not like to own any of it. i think people are picking up on that and that could be a problem going down the line. host: the white house announced that he will be attending the gridiron dinner later this month but it is closed to cameras. we're joined from detroit michigan on the independent line -- caller: thank you for receiving my call. if you're a democrat or republican, you are running for office. once you become a senator or congressman, you become a u.s. congressman or senator. you should be working for the people of united states. the 55,000 pound gorilla in the room is that you have an historical example. -- a black president in the united states. everybody seems to be falling short of r

conservatism, which were in the critique of executive power under franklin roosevelt and then lyndon johnsonvatism goes right back to the '30s when modern conservatism was born in reaction against the new deal has been congressionally oriented and a deep suspicion going back as far as the american revolution against executive prerogatives and george iii, deep suspicion of executive power generally. >> but it did reveal a big split right now inside the the republican party. >> absolutely. >> you saw lindsey graham and john mccain. i want to show a little bit of that. one exchange they had where rand paul was talking about the possibility that a president might have, for instance, taken out jane fonda. >> no one will ever forget jane fonda swiveling around in north vietnamese armored guns and it was despicable. that's one thing if you want to try her for treason but are you going to just drop a drone hellfire missile on jane fonda. >> to somehow allege or infer that the president of the united states is going to kill somebody like jane fonda or someone who disagrees with the policies is a stre

and don't remember his name, he was an expert on lyndon johnson and he said towards the end johnson's term in 68 that johnson had a solution, a treaty just about to be worked out and somehow richard nixon was able to torpedo that answer budget. considering the death between 68 and 72 when the war was finally ended why isn't that mentioned more and people's recollections of nixon, he is known for watergate. at toomey is a worse sin that possibly he let the war continue for four years just to get back at johnson for some reason. of your comments, it is sold for about all the work in the beginning, so hard, the carrying of equipment. looking to a guy called jerry nolan, heartbreakers, one of the great dramas. >> guest: i would say this. if johnson had a plan to end the vietnam war he wouldn't have resigned. certainly johnson was powerful enough and clever enough, he took a backseat to no one, certainly not richard nixon who had no official authority at the time. nixon didn't even have an elected post in 1968. so i find it hard to believe that johnson would have had a way to get out of vi

i don't remember his name, he was an expert on lyndon johnson, and he said that towards the end of johnson's term in '68 that johnson pretty much had a solution for the vietnam war, and there was of a treaty just about to be worked out, and somehow richard nixon was able to or torpedo that and sabotage it. considering all the deaths between '68 and '72 when the war was finally ended, why isn't that mentioned more in people's recollections of nixon? i mean, he's known for watergate, he's known for -- but that, to me, is a worse sin that possibly he let the war continue for another four years just to get back at johnson for some reason. loved your comments about band and beating the band. it's so true, man, all the work in the beginning is so hard, all the carrying equipment. you looking for great drummers, look into a guy called jerry no land. heartbreakers, new york dollings. one of the great drummer ors. thank you, guys. >> guest: i would say this, if johnson had a plan to end the vietnam war, he wouldn't have resigned. and certainly johnson was powerful enough and clever enough. he took a