vips come into this space as they did in lyndon johnson's day. it's not open to our visitors on a daily basis. and the remarkable thing about this space is it is really a living, breathing artifact. it hasn't changed at all since president johnson died in january of 1973. there is a document in the corner of this room signed by among others the then archivist of the united states telling my predecessors myself and successors that nothing in this room can change. this is just as president johnson would have seen it in his day. there have been a number of luminaires in this room, seven presidents have strided through these rooms, six first ladies the queen of england prince philip prince charles, princess diana all have been in this room and looks exactly as we see it now. there is a famous interview that lbj did in the early 1970s in which lbj is sitting in that chair and walter cronkite in that couch. you see exactly what you see right now. the president was alive for about a year and a half when this library was built. it was inaugurated. he had

. >> he's the author of nine books including the triumph and tragedy of lyndon johnson. originally published in 1992 by simon & schuster eight has been released and is now back in publication. tonight joe will talk about the book and his former boss that you describe senate. it's bluntly honest and calculatingly devious. moderating tonight conversation is our old friend bob schieffer. he has won virtually every major award. while he never had the opportunity to interview lbj tapes conducted every president interview since lbj from richard nixon through barack obama. bob is the very best in a very competitive business. for disclosure, joe and i are old friends. i've interviewed him many times. i thought that was the best book about lyndon johnson up until that point and he just jumped off of the pages. the things that you put in the book back then you say that we live today in the lyndon johnson's world. why don't you talk a little bit about that? >> in education, 60% of the kids in college on the basis of his work-study grand and long loan programs called pell grants but

presidential libraries based in texas about their collections documenting the white house years of lyndon johnson, george bush, and george w. bush. the george bush presidential library and museum hosted this event. it's about 90 minutes. >> we say howdy. my apologies to johnson and bush 43 but that's what we do here. welcome to the bush presidential library. i am the director here. we've got to staff members each from the bush presidential library 43, our own presidential library

kennedy and lyndon johnson had called on the government to help those in need.ald reagan called on the government to get out of the way so people could help themselves. reagan administration budget director, david stockman, told congress that the job corps had flunked the cost/benefit test. too much cost, not enough benefit. the cost? $15,000 a slot, he said. more than a harvard education. it made me laugh to see david stockman resurrecting that old canard this year as a justification for closing up the job corps. that was all discussed back in the '60s. the fact is it's not true. the actual costs of the entire job corps operation per enrollee is about 6,000 bucks. now, that's a lot of money. i'm not trying to minimize it. but the question is, is it better to spend $6,000 to transform that young man or woman and turn them into a taxpayer, or to leave them alone save the $6,000, and then spend $26,000 or $46,000 a year taking care of them in jail? schoumacher: job corps benefits were as minimal, david stockman said, as its costs were high. over the past 15 years

disasters" about the national security advisory during much of the vietnam war for john kennedy and lyndon johnson and the bun u one of the chapter headings is that politics is the enemy of strategy. and there's a lot of politics in this. a lot of political pressure on the president and as you know in any strategy, you can't do it in a week or a couple of weeks, you have to think it out. where does this go doesn't mean it's not going to work. doesn't mean it's not done in good faith. it does mean, and as you see with the generals who are really public say, wait a minute, no boots on the ground. that's maybe not going to work so there's a real strain there between the president and -- and the generals in terms of what's the strategy. presidents can't be military strategists. they have to go to the pentagon, the secretary of defense, generals and admirals and say this is what i want to accomplish. here's the goal, right. >> how can i best do it. and it had followed that procedure, they wouldn't have come back and said oh, just conduct an air war. >> but the suspicion is that people talk about this,

suggest you read his work to get what robert caro says about lyndon johnson the way he viewed it. my book is from king's perspective, not from johnson's, so i don't feel knowledgeable enough to answer. on your second question, i do know the deal on the second question. so many of these black leaders i referenced earlier by name roy wilkens of the naacp whitney young in the urban league, carl rohan, ralph bunch, thurgood marshall and others who had issue with dr. king, many of them, most of them were concerned about the damage that king was doing to their relationship, that is to say to black america's relationship with lyndon johnson. put another way lyndon johnson was viewed by many black folk at that time as the best friend that black folk in this country had had in the oval office since lincoln and the emancipation proclamation freeing the slaves. this guy passes the civil rights act, the voting rights act, you know, to say nothing of the other social programs he pushed forward. he's calling for a war on poverty. so again to most black folk johnson was the best friend we had ha

i think it shows a very human side of lyndon johnson because he asks when they are going to make the press announcement. he says that 10 minutes and he says i want you to wait until you can notify the families. president johnson: i think we ought to follow if we can -- talking to walter. >> [indiscernible] president johnson: are you following him? >> mr. president. mr. hoover wanted me to call you and say the fbi has found three bodies in philadelphia, mississippi, six miles west of where the civil rights workers were last seen on the night of june 21st. a search party has turned up the bodies about 15 minutes ago when they were digging in the woods in the underbrush off of route 21 in that area. we are going to get a car right away and move these bodies to jackson, its acidity, where we hope they can be identified. we have not identified them as of yet, but we have every reason to believe they are the three missing men. they were on the side of a dam that had been constructed near philadelphia, mississippi. we wanted to let you know right away, sir. president johnson: when are you go

lyndon johnson goes to gettysburg memorial day. lyndon johnson is from what state? texas, the lone star state. johnson has a very poignant memorial day speech. from johnson, this is may 30 1960's63 -- 1963. what is lyndon johnson doing? >> he is addressing the inequality of blacks in america even as a southerner from texas. jennifer murray: yes. it is important to note where they are doing this. they are doing this on the gettysburg battlefield. how does the speech have more power at gettysburg than somewhere in texas or even d.c.? >> gettysburg was the biggest battle of the civil war and the civil war was fought over slavery, despite what everyone was saying about it. jennifer murray: yes, he is using the power of the place to make more meaning or more power behind his message. >> it is not only that. the previous speeches at gettysburg had nothing to do with it. they were specifically asking to not talk about anything like this. jennifer murray: what do we start to see with themes of commemoration? continuity or change? you are seeing a shift, a change. they are st

we have more recent paintings in the senate chamber including barbara jordan, lyndon johnson former president of the united states. the only textile in the artifact collection is the flag from the bat. it normally hangs behind the speakers. we only have it on display when the legislature is in session. as you can imagine it is very fragile and we try to keep it protected under the red drapery. we usually have a replica in its place because the legislature gavels in we have it on display. it is one of the iconic texas history artifacts that all of our school children who come to the capital to learn about texas history and learn about how to be a good citizen, they have an opportunity to see these kinds of artifacts up close and personal. the capital welcomes more than a million visitors a year and we are thankful to show them the capital itself and furnishings but we have a number of monuments on the grounds to various causes. on the south grounds we have four of the most historic monuments, texas rangers alamo, confederate monument and volunteer fireman monument. in the early 1990s the capit

lyndon johnson pulled out of the race, martin luther king was assassinated. and, by the way one of the things i discovered, he was very close to dr. king. he had, he had come to the rescue of king's birmingham crusade financially when they were running out of bail money for the kids who were demonstrating in birmingham. and then, of course, tragically when dr. king was killed in april 1968 nelson called mrs. king and the follow-up was sent his advance men and organized and paid for dr. king's funeral. c-span: when was that first known? >> guest: he didn't want it known. he said to the advance men who i talked with that we don't want to take advantage of the family's suring. suffering. c-span: so when was it first published? >> guest: when he died. there was a little story to that effect. the full story only comes out now. but the other critical thing that happened between during that month was on april 23rd he was smuggled with happy into the johnson white house. i talked to the man who took him in and took him out -- c-span: who was that? >> guest: larry tem

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lyndon johnson was something of a monster. he could say, i have achieved a lot.harlie: can you easily say it was not necessary to be however you define a monster in order to achieve what he achieved. it may have benefited people as much as frances perkins. david: when someone, like the people we cover, who are involved in scandal, it is because of something broken inside. the scandal never emerges out of nothing. their watergate will come. if you ignore your adam two, your watergate will come. i think we are endowed with a moral imagination. we don't want to just have moments of happiness or success. that's great. all of us want to be good. it is part of our nature. charlie: nobody sets out to be bad. david: even mass murderers have rationalization why they are actually good. my students, wonderful kids at yale. it is so hard to get into gale. they have had to work very hard on the achievement side, but they really want to be good. one of them said, we are so hungry. to achieve that feeling of goodness. in my course, the nicest compliment i got was from a kid who

is in the white house early president lyndon johnson to move. the film that has come out has been criticized by some for putting lyndon johnson in a very bad light. you write about your conversation with the other person who was in the. >> guest: in the book i have an exclusive interview with an ambassador who talks to lbj. he he was not only a prominent figure in the civil rights community but a former congressman from georgia a former un ambassador and someone who worked for at that time a relatively low level white house staffer. a credible person them in the room and this is what i don't understand. all of this back and forth. he said in his book that lbj did say that he would not have the power to push it forward. and we were talking about the voting rights act after they successfully get the civil rights act. rev. joe gerald -- reverend jesse jackson said something very interesting people like doctor king as a marker but not a merger. strategically these civil rights leaders had to figure out how to give him the power. so there were tactic

on he lyndon johnson question i don't feel that i am adept enough or learned enough to answer in detail what johnson's response was to king. so robert care rojas done all the wonderful work on lyndon johnson, read his work to get what he says about lyndon johnson, they way he viewed it. my book is from king's perspective, not johnson's, so i don't feel acknowledgeable enough to. a onure second question i know the deal on the second question. so that many of these black leaders i refer repsed earlier by name, the naacp. young, thunder in marshall -- thurgood marshall, many of them were concerned. the damage that king was doing to their relationship, that is to say to black america's relationship with lyndon johnson. another way,line iline don john so is vas viewed buy black folk as the best friend that black folk had in the oval office since abraham lincoln. so johnson comes along and this guy passes the civil rights act, the voting rights act say nothing of the other social programs he pushed forward. the war on poverty. to most black folk johnson was the best friend we had in the oval

this is actually an audio clip because you might have known that lyndon johnson had taped all of the cell phone conversations and the white house. lyndon johnson knew that he was recording people on the phone, including ladybird we later found out did not know they were being taped. making a record for history and it's quite a wonderful one for scholars that this is a conversation where ladybird is critiquing lyndon johnson's performance at a public event. let's listen. i touch her strong, firm, reliable guy. [inaudible] too much looking down and i think was a little too fast. dropping her voice at the end of sentences. there was a considerable pickup in drama and interest when you first begin. your facial expressions were -- saddleback i thought your answers on vietnam was good. i didn't like the answer on the job. [inaudible] >> and therein lies the reason why we should talk about first ladies, because what other advice or could be that candid to a president? >> wasn't there a family, they owned television station or something so she had the background come and so as an advisor bec

lyndon johnson was something of a monster. johnson could say hey i achieved a lot. i would say a couple of things -- none of us -- >> rose: could you say it wasn't easily -- easily say it wasn't necessary to be how you define monster in order to achieve all those things? he may have benefited people as much as francis perkins. >> i would say someone like the people we cover who are involved in scandal, politics or business is because of something broken inside. the scandal never emerges out of nothing. it's because at a had something undeveloped inside and that they -- their watergate will come, if you ignore your adam two, your watergate will come and for johnson there were a lot of bad moments when that came. second we are endowed all of us with a moral imagination. we don't just want to have moments of happiness or success. that's great. i think all of us want to be good. it's part of our nature. >> rose: nobody sets out to be bad. >> right. even mass murderers even have rationalization why they're actually good. my students who are wonderful kids at yale but --

president lyndon johnson delivered his first major policy speech regarding the vietnam war. it was carried live from john gens university in baltimore to an estimated audience of 60 million, the president sought to answer concerns of americans opposed to the escalation of the conflict as well as those who thought the united states was not doing enough to help south vietnam. titled "peace without conquest" he attempted to address why vietnam was worth the of sacrifice and laid out plans for economic development in vietnam. u.s. ella terry personnel went from about 23,000 in january of 1965 to over -- u.s. military personnel went from 23,000. >> this marks the second occasion on which johns hopkins has been privileged to welcome our chief executive of this campus. ladies and gentlemen, i present the president of the united states. [applause] president johnson: senator tidings, members of the congressional allegation, members of the faculty at john hopkins student body, my fellow americans, last week, 17 nations send their views to some two dozen countries having an interest in

and when eisenhower is compelled really by a crafty senate leader named lyndon johnson, aided by another crafty legislator named john f. kennedy who's in the senate to consider this provision, he himself is looking at re-election. he knows this is a very powerful and -- it's an issue that much of american public supports. this is pre-medicare, of course. and he also sees the ama on other side who sees this as the thin end of the wedge of socialism. now, one of the interesting things about eisenhower is that he wasn't, he wasn't an idealogue. and he really understood that in signing in this legislation, he was really helping to insure his re-election. it was never really in doubt, but he was in some ways boxed in by a very crafty legislator and a crafty senate leader. and it's he who reluctantly signed this legislation in 1956 establishing this disability benefit. the ama thought of this as heresy. they thought that this was a terrible decision. and physicians abhorred it not only because they abhorred socialized medicine as they called it but because they thought -- and rightly so i thin

that kind of war -- targets picked by lyndon johnson in the basement of the white house. i remember one target i had one day was a place that had been bombed numerous times before and 100 yards away was a bridge. could not strike the bridge, but could make the concrete bounce at the target i was assigned. it was foolish, and all of us knew it was foolish, and it was worse than that in many respects because so many of my squadron mates and air wing mates were shot down and killed and captured. kelly: what was a typical day like at yankee station? senator mccain: there was periods on yankee station where we had just sort of routine launches every hour and 40 minutes where you you would get probably a couple of sorties a day where you would go out in two or four airplanes on various specific targets. the other was when we were in the kinds of operations we called alpha strikes. and that would be once a day and maximum of twice a day where all, practically all the air wing would be launched at one time. we would rendezvous and usually go strike a major target usually up aroun

help to tell the story of the 20th century. 50 years ago on april 7, 1955 -- 1965, president lyndon johnson delivered his first major policy speech on the vietnam war. carried live from baltimore to an estimated television audience of 60 million, the president sought to answer concerns of americans opposed to the excellent -- escalation of the conflict and those who thought the united states is not doing enough to help south vietnam. titled " peace without conquest," explained why southeast asia was of vital interest to the united states and laid out plans for economic development in vietnam. u.s. military personnel went from about 23,000 in january of 1965 to over 180,000 by the end of the year. johnson: vietnam is far away from this quad campus. we have no territory there or do we seek any. the war is dirty and brutal and difficult and some 400 young men born into an america that is bursting with opportunity and promise have ended their lives on vietnam's steaming soil. why must we take this painful road? why must this nation hazard its ease and its interests and its power for the sake of

but just after kennedy was killed, fidel castro sent a private note back to lyndon johnson saying did you know we were in talks with president kennedy, this is how secret these things were. he didn't know if johnson knew and wanted to say to him, we were in talks. if you know about them, do you want to continue them. and this note was kept secret and nobody knew about it for 35 years, but it was given to a reporter on february 12, 1964. johnson had been president for less than three months. castro was reaching out to see what might be possible. he reached out to richard nixon 10 days after nixon's inauguration. and here you have a situation in which the new president of the united states was somebody that fidel was familiar with. he had met with him for a couple of hours in april of 1959. the meeting, as bill has written so colorfuly in the book, went badly. fidel did not emerge keen on richard nixon and richard nixon emerged not very keen on fidel castro as you can imagine and went on to become one of the true proponents of overthrowing castro. but even so, castro called in the swiss

i don't know what happens, but i think it would be akin to lyndon johnson not running for president in 68, that the rumble on lift was too much to -- left was too much to deal work he opted out, i don't know the mode and pattern of events that would lead hillary clinton to opt out or get defeated out right. >> i think that is a real possibility. we're in april 2015, we're already saying that is a core on -- core nation. think back in 2007 we thought hillary clinton of the nom ni nominee. if anyone says they know what is happening in 2016 they are lying to you. neil: i just told you what is going to happen, but morningy, what do you think -- margie what do you think this will hurt her. it looks good from afar, but far from good up close. >> obama was elected he was the untouchable and put on a herculean platform, i think she is the same thing that is dangerous, living up to expectations is always a challenge, she will be scrutinized with a sharper eye she has more history more things to point to and pick up and for republicans to go after. i love that confidence, neil, i want that 8 bal

beginning at 6:30 eastern joseph califano, domestic policy aid to president linton -- lyndon johnson and then democracy in the dark this seduction of government secrecy can i. on "after words" as 9 eastern and then at 10:00 a

president, the editors of "national review" regretfully announce that their patience with president lyndon johnson is exhausted. [laughter] which "time" magazine characterized as the impetuosity of the week. it was joe soburn who commented in the issue celebrating ronald reagan's election with the election of ronald reagan, gnash review assumes a new importance in american life. we've become as it were an established organ. and we feel that only appropriate to alter or demeanor accordingly. this is a therefore the last issue in which we shall indulge in levity. connoisseurs of humor will have to get their yuckers elsewhere. we have a nation to run. this last should have been label would a j for joke because a number of more sober readers took it seriously. [laughter] perhaps my favorite of all paragraphs was tim wheeler's lighthearted comment on the mt. st. helens eruption in 1980 quote, i'm sorry i made an ash of myself. lava come back to me. love, helen. i would call my book living it up with "national review" so that no one would confuse it bea serious historical work and add to the title the w

president lyndon johnson delivered his first major policy speech regarding the vietnam war. it was carried live from john gens university in baltimore to an e

lyndon johnson, who was the president, had no choice but to withdraw for reelection. in november 19 68, richard nixon became president and inherited a full-scale war in southeast asia. the war went on to become one of the seminal events of the 20th century. ultimately, 50,000 americans lost their lives. it shaped military leaders and leaders. men here today helped hammer out the paris peace accords. i want to introduce william smyser. he served in germany with u.s. forces. including as a witness to the berlin crisis in 1961, the beginning of the cold war. he was an advisor in 1969 and became a senior member of kissinger's national security council. he was responsible for vietnam affairs. after leaving in 1971, he served as political advisor and became deputy high commissioner for refugees and he is now a perverse or at georgetown university. next is winston lord. he was one of kissinger's closest advisers. he worked on every aspect of foreign policy including the china, arms control negotiations, peace talks. weston went on to become president of the council of foreig

people are going to run on newness, energy the future, running against the lyndon johnsons of the world she represents of the past in the '90s a good past. in the last six years it was not that good a path. she will be representing one way or the other. she can't escape that. that will be a strong underlying theme. she might want to declare sexism or ageism on that but that won't work. >> i want to enter democrat candidate casino. we come here every so often. let's go down the row in the democratic casino. who is going to be the nominee? >> used to be $100 on hillary. i am down to 90. the only one who deserves to get anything is elizabeth warren. the only reason i have $10 on her is because there is probably a one in ten chance she will get into the race and she would be the only challenger who would have a chance. >> you and i have the exact same number. 10 i put to the house not because i think somebody else will beat hillary clinton. i think he is positioned to be the nominee but i'm very risk averse. i don't like putting all my money on one number. >> we have seen you here in the ca

uniform you stood out and symbolized the military and the operation led by the commander-in-chief, lyndon johnson. i remember mayday parades, i don't know if you saw the pictures demonstrations where the students would put flowers in the barrels of the weapons -- we did not carry weapons in the mayday parade. there was sort of a friendly dissidentsce. those who were not in uniform, demonstrating against us nothing unkind or intimidating but you felt it. the day you wore the uniform you were different. david: you talked about your summer cruises as a midshipman. when i was a midshipman, we went to come straight -- penn state. we did and orientation to -- orientation tighttype cruise and then we get a first-class cruise. was that similar to your experience? senator tom carper: when i was a midshipman and i went to penn state. in my freshman year, we d -- we headed off to newport island. i was there in the year that bob dylan was booed at the folk festival. we went out into the atlantic ocean to do exercises on a destroyer. i remember the most exciting thing was that we got stuck in a hurricane at s

. >> the other thing that is truly bizarre, lynn son johnson's -- lyndon johnson's shower. >> he wouldlumber and say if i can move 10,000 troops in a day you can fix the shower. he wanted to have liar a fire hose strength, go from holt to cold immediately, traveled with six shower nozzles, and his daughter lucy baines johnson, said a shower was one of life's few comforts for my father. >> with water shooting at his crop and his -- his crotch and his rear.3 i'll leave if at that. it is a fun book, thank you for being with us. good to see you. >> thankup you. >> g.o.p. hopefuls speaking today. we'll have a live update from in the convention. stick around. toenail fungus? don't hide it... tackle it with fda-approved jublia! jublia is a prescription medicine proven to treat toenail fungus. use jublia as instructed by your doctor. once applied jublia gets to the site of infection by going under, around and through the nail. most common side effects include ingrown toenail, application-site redness itching, swelling, burning or stinging, blisters, and pain. tackle it! ask your doctor now if

can you imagine lyndon johnson not talking to anybody? that was his great skill set. that's why he got elected president. they used to respect the separation of powers. they needed congress. they had no media coverage to protect them. they had -- look at ronald reagan, neil. he was one of the great communicators as president. and he would leverage the american public to phone their senator. yet even ronald reagan would sit down with tip o'neil and spin an irish yard -- >> he'd have him to the white house residence and be drinking with him. but reagan was big on saying, i don't want to humiliate the other side. say in other words, not trying to leave with the other guy with egg on their face. here it seems to be beyond that. >> it does. and not just reagan. bill clinton. you'd have to go all the way back to eisenhower, the reason eisenhower was elected president was because here was a man wasn't the greatest stat gist or the great estrogen, but he could get the french and the brishtdtish and the prima donna generals to work together. >> you're quite right. i was thinki

joining me from washington is julie swig at the lyndon johnson school of public affairs and author ofat everyone needs to know. in this rapidly changing time with cuba coming to the summit for the first time. we're expecting an encounter, what do we need to know about cuba today? >> number one we need to know cuba is changing. secretary gutierrez talked about the question of whether these changes are moving forward under raul castro. the answer is definitively yes. several hundred thousand people have licenses to run their own businesses and cuban families shall sending remittances to the tune of 2 to $3 billion a year to help with that process. the open values that the president obama is hoping to project into cuba that's making an impact. there's much more debate in cuba than ever before. cubans now travel freely without having to ask permission from their government to travel. it's a very big difference than five or ten or 15 years ago. certainly even then the summit of americas palpable changes. >> what about this issue of venezuela, has the white house, deliberately or not given

he had been told this by lyndon johnson during the transition. i think he left office convinced of the same. we never saw a cint ichlt lilla of evidence that this was the case that it was ran by hanoi or moscow or anybody else. it was just people exercising their strong feelings about the vietnam war. so i went to mitchell mitchell said, don't do anything with it. and he said draft a memo which i'll agree to to create an inner agency evaluation committee. and that's all that was ever created and to me i have no knowledge of the houston plan ever becoming operational, where the restraints were lifted. i read later in some of the family jewels, there's evidence that they were doing mail covers, they were doing things but not sharing that with the white house. so the white house certainly wasn't aware of it. and the inner agency evaluation committee was not particularly insightful in the information that they developed. it was just another bureaucratic gathering to try to sort through what they were willing to share amongst themselves and then share

she went to campaign for him for lyndon johnson, when he was running for reelection in the heat of the civil rights debate. i think she had what it took to be president of the united states. guest: -- she was basically running the country because of her husband's incapacity from a stroke was virtually unknown. guest: she had a lot of -- did not have a lot of the knowledge base to do it, though, unfortunately. host: how big of a factor will the foundation be in 2016? guest: i think of the a few tractor because already the media, including some terrific reporting from my own newspaper is looking at sort of the source and the funds and the fact that it was taking for contributions at a time when hillary clinton was secretary of state. and some contradiction of what they said was their own policies. i think these are definitely worthwhile areas of reporting. they are going to continue to be. host: you have researched the subject and also have seen it firsthand. but at what point does the president listened to his wife? if he doesn't, order some of the consequences? guest: i think the presi

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beginning at 6:30 eastern joseph califano, domestic policy aid to president linton -- lyndon johnson and then democracy in the dark this seduction of government secrecy can i. on "after words" as 9 eastern and then at 10:00 a talk about homocide in america from last weekend's "los angeles times" festival of books. we wrap up at 11:00 with a panel discussion on c-span's latest book, first ladies. that happens tonight on c-span2's booktv. >> pulitzer prizes were awarded this last weekend and other elizabeth kolbert won. her book, "the sixth extinction. "the and this one will be the most devastating. sheer he is -- here she is now on booktv. [applause] >> thank you very much. i, tomorrow, am very impressed that such a large number of people are here on a friday night, and i really appreciate it. so thanks very much for being here. i want to start by introducing you to this fellow on the screen who is a hawaiian crow, otherwise known as an alala. know he looks loot like an ordinary crow but there are actually significant differences of his beak is thicker and his legs are thicker and the

buy what would be later known as the kennedy compound and the last president was vice president lyndon johnson when he was here to kick off the 400th anniversary and he did that and he was here and had been invited and promised do that. we are in the hotel's grand parlor. this is a very feminine space that was designed as a gathering place inshallitially for women and became a second ballroom to be used. women would come in the side entrances from the courtyard. their luggage would go up to their rooms and be unpacked and come in this area to sit, chat, write letters. it is light and airy and features 11 crystal chandeliers designed by tiffany and gold leaf throughout. it also is the place that we have most of the artwork that remains from the collection that was exhibited here in the hotel. it has 40 paintings to show here including the third wife. over here and opposite her we have a portrait of henry flagler himself on this side. we use this now as what we call the flagler room. it's our museum room in that it reflects the historic furniture and 20th century furniture as the hotel was updat

you think of for instance lyndon johnson gave a speech in 1968, wasn't very funny.r who the comedian was or what the entertainment was, but i think in those days one would have been terrified to give a speech when the president was there with anything remotely approaching that kind of criticism. >> don changed that a few weeks ago, if you remember that one. >> the crowd created an entire different dementia. >> thanks so much for your time tonight. appreciate that. and as michael mentioned msnbc is going to have live coverage of the white house correspondents dinner tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern. ahead a change of the top of the justice department and the legacy of asparagus. stay with us. but when i started having back pain my sister had to come help. i don't like asking for help. i took tylenol but i had to take six pills to get through the day. so my daughter brought over some aleve. it's just two pills, all day! and now, i'm back! aleve. two pills. all day strong, all day long. and for a good night's rest, try aleve pm for a better am. in our house, we do just a

lyndon johnson he was recording people on the phone including lady byrd who didn't know they were being taped. [laughter] ms. swain: this is a conversation where lady byrd is critiquing miss performance at a public event. let's listen. zphoo [indiscernible] ms. swain: therein lies the conversation of first ladies. what other adviser could be that candid to a president? what are you hearing there? ms. thompson: she had the background and so as an adviser because first ladies are an adviser whether in an official capacity or not, they bring that eye, she wants him to be as successful. ant ant the very attributes they bring to the table mrs. johnson like mrs. obama thinks in an organized way. they are very well structured in their mind. jackie kennedy says i don't have a schedule. and different ones bring different things and mrs. johnson, she had a degree in journalism, her love of writing and love of cadence and wisdom and the media experience brought that. and that is very political and to the policy, but it ends up having a political result. ms. swain: this is not a new fen no, ma'amon

since lyndon b. johnson launched the war on poverty 15 years ago, we spent $16 trillion building an entitlement nation. we have over 200 state and federal means-tested programs spending about $1 trillion a year. but here's the kicker. the poverty rate hasn't changed. >> the poverty rate is the highest it's been in decades actually inching up. and every time you give something, a handout things can get better and none of the money comes back. do you not like this program? >> i don't like this program. i'll tell you why. it's just another imposition of putting a regulatory group together who's going to regulate what they're already trying to regulate. what they need to do is cut the program to be a limited in time, limited in the amounts of money and say that's it and enforce the program. you don't need another group of federal regulators to come in and tell you what you can eat and can't eat. hey you have so much for this -- it says, by the way, starts with the word temporary. so temporary is what it should b

now, for his labors moynihan was a young professor at harvard working for lyndon johnson's great societyberal democrat assistant secretary of labor. for his labors he got called a racist. he was accused of blaming the victim. i learned from my friend that actually that phrase was first used in connection with criticizing moynihan. but of course moynahan turned out to be absolutely right about so many things. one thing he wasn't right about as it turns out can't be faulted. he was looking at the data he was looking at. one thing he wasn't right about what he thought it had just about everything to do with race race. the history of russia which obviously is one of the great stains on the american conscience and the history of jim crow, white supremacy. but now we know he was wrong about that because work by murray and putnam and david and amber laughed now shows us the same cultural factors leading to the very same personal catastrophes and soulful -- social pathologies exist in nonminority communities in my native appalachia. i grew up in west virginia. we go to harlan county kentucky or

you know, it started over 50 years ago in 1963, lyndon johnson moving on the civil rights legislation was -- thought that equal pay for women would be an easy thing to pass. at that time only 11% of mothers were in the work force. now there are over 70% of mothers in the work force. at that time, women were, again, paid 59 cents for every dollar a man earned. we passed that civil rights act. now, gee, 50 years later we're up to 78 cents for every man a dollar -- every dollar a man earns. so it's taken us 50 years to advance 20 cents. wow. that just doesn't work. so -- the women of america feel sidelined, redlined, and pink slipped for the way they're discriminated against and then they face the harassment and intimidation when they simply is ask questions to get the pay they deserve. what we now know is, again the facts speak for themselves. women earn 78 cents for every dollar a man makes. for women close to the retirement age the wage gap increases to almost $14,000 a year. by the time she retires the average woman has lost almost $400,000 in a lifetime of wages. the impact, you get