lyndon johnson had a significant impact. probably not exceeded by fdr, but in the contemporary 1933, it is there. even ronald reagan made this point. he said i'm not against fdr, but i didn't like lyndon johnson. given that it was for sale. listen to the debate today, we are still debating lyndon johnson's legacy whether we wreck i again across the spec ram. that the party make in the book. we've been dealing with north koreans for a while. we are dealing with supreme court nominations to the chief justice and homer thornberry was a lame duck president should not build to make that decision. so everything has a continuity there. and again, it and that's what makes it so important to understand the spirit in the johnson presidency and i will make this argument very strongly both as direct or the 1960s soviet period of fascination throughout our history. read it through the civil war, world war ii. this period, so i know the good thing for me on that his research will continue to come to the johnson library to understand these

many people had no idea who lyndon johnson was.he decided he would make his first priority passing the civil rights bill that had installed. somebody was writing, the republic was not going to live if congress couldn't figure out how to get something done together. his friends warned him, if you do this, a southern filibuster will inevitably materialize. you will get any other bill through. you'll be expending all of your power of the presidency on this one thing. he said to that person, what the hell is the presidency for then? is that unlike a poker player. i will put all my chips on one thing. i think he believed if he could get this out to desegregate, it would be better for the south. even though they may not believe it at the time. he believes the civil rights movement was at a stage or something had to be done or violence or problems would arise. he took that risk. it was one of the great moments of his presidency. despite the fact he did so much more in the next 18 months. medicare, medicaid. npr. pbs. immigration reform. a

for lyndon johnson, it took much longer, because vietnam so divided this nation. and it took at least two generations for passions to recede around vietnam. but when they did, and we got clearer perspective, one that dark cloud of vietnam dissipated, we saw what lyndon johnson did prodigiously in the legislative arena. and in particular, what he did in civil rights. and there is no president, save, perhaps, abraham lincoln, who's done as much in the cause of civil rights, which in so many ways defines us as a nation, as lyndon johnson. and finally, he's getting due credit for those accomplishments. so i think in answer to your question, stewart, he'd be pleased. >> well, we can't talk about presidents without talking about first ladies. and anita, you've done a terrific job in your role at american university, focusing on the role of first ladies. and you, yourself, were chief of staff to one of america's favorite, laura bush. let's talk about mrs. johnson, as we keep the johnson thing going here. and mrs. johnson took over being first lady very suddenly, in the p

lyndon johnson. and finally, he's getting due credit for those accomplishments. so i think, in answer to your question, stuart, he'd pleased. >> well, we can't talk about presidents without talking about first ladies, and anita, you've done a terrific job in your role at american university focusing on the role of first ladies, and you yourself were chief of staff to one of america's favorite, laura bush. let's talk about ms. johnson as we keep the johnson theme going here. mrs. johnson took over being first lady very suddenly in the passing of president kennedy, and mrs. kennedy had done so much in our space, historic preservation of the white house, but mrs. johnson continued that in her own way. these are 45 men and women who have been very unique in their presidencies and in their personalities, and also in their legacies as we see evidence in these wonderful presidential sites. but tell us about mrs. johnson and her role as first lady and that transition and a very painful way and what she did in the white house in our space. >> well, first, i think -- so, l

[applause] wants to learn more about lyndon johnson, where is the lyndon johnson library? >> in austin, texas, and we ask you to come. it is wonderful. we used to be the premiere library because we -- and we still are, in the sense that we have tapes of daddy talking. and he'll be talking to harry truman. i am fortunate enough to have met your great great aunt. both of them. princess alice was a hoot. [laughter] >> her younger sister was wonderful. they took us to sagamore hill. president truman took me on a tour of his library. i have been blessed with getting to meet a lot of these people. so i hope they all come to the library of every president and learn. there are so many things. clifton continue about going to -- can tell you about going to many of the libraries and learning. and daddy went too. and said, all these years i've been saying all those bad things about hoover. [laughter] >> i never knew he did all of those wonderful things to feed europe. >> is there a truman library? >> there is. it is in independence, missouri, about a mile from grandpa's house. >> why

and i love the minute you knew was lyndon johnson. and how you almost lost your job on an article that you meant but i was a applying for the white house fellow we had a big dance at the white house. he was swirling around the floor anything he wanted to be at the white house but the month leading up to my selection at harvard i went to the anti-vietnam war wrote: i had her but he came in after the death of white house how doovyn we went to johnson from power? i was certain he would get me out. he is here for one. i win her over no peeking. w so i worked there and i helped him with his memoirs was the most extraordinary time. he is in a character and what a blessing to spend so many hours with that me know that everything that i began to feel about is what i hope i carry over and maybe not a presidential history we will talk about job the president. there are three parts to eachcht description. atwhether they were destined for greatness what is the problem in their life and suicide but what challenges they show great leadershipat skil

daddy always used to say -- [laughter] i mention it because my daddy said certain things about lyndon johnson. and what he said contemporaneously when johnson was president was very different from what we are saying today. presidential legacies evolve. and i think it takes us at least a generation, and even more than two in some cases, to get a clear perspective on how basically a president will be remembered in perpetuity. lyndon johnson it took much longer, because vietnam so divided this nation, and it took at least two generations for passions to recede around vietnam. but when they did, and we got clear perspective, when that dark cloud of vietnam dissipated, we saw what lyndon johnson did in the legislative arena, and in particular what did he in civil rights. and there is no president, say perhaps for abe lincoln, who has done much in the way of cause of civil rights, which in so many ways defines us as a nation as lyndon johnson, and finally getting due credit for those accomplishments. so i think in answer to your question, stewart he would be , pleased. bob: well, we can't talk abou

the fact that lyndon johnson just suffered as you said from depression. lincoln had manic depression you wrote about. and then what makes all of this so abnormal, because people have brought up whether president trump is fit for office for all sorts of reasons. but others had reasons as well. >> the difference is that all of the other guys, i call them all of my guys because i have lived with them for so long. lincoln almost had a suicidal depression, but he came out of it. he said i don't want to live now, but i have not done anything to make any human being remember. teddy roosevelt lost his wife and mother on the same day. and he came out of it and became a larger leader. fdr's polio set him into depression. but he became a larger leader. the real difference is do you learn through loss and the difference between president trump, is he has said the reason he has the best tell me pra meant is because he has never lost. unless you can reflect on your losses and absorb them and be stronger, then you stay static. >> lincoln respects -- whether it is crowd

goodwin, the book focuses on president lincoln, teddy roosevelt, fdr and lyndon johnson. why did you pick those books? >> that's why felt closest to. each one of those four lived inr a very turbulent time in a time of crisis which often makes the leadership more necessary and more possible. when i chose the title, "leadership in turbulent times" come i didn't think it to do as well as it does today. [inaudible] sometimes we think we're looking at the work of time and yet if we look back at what abe lincoln when he went into office comest boulware was 600,000 people were going to i die on the horizon, f you'd ever known how difficult it would be to get through the first t month he would've thougt he could live through it. he comes into the industrial revolution, when it would break out. after your of course at the height of the depression nlg albie june assassination of jfk. [inaudible] i wanted people to remember that we've done it before we could do it again. >> cabal discovered personal personal political [inaudible] >> it argues it's one of the most important qualities

miss goodwin, your most recent book focuses on president lincoln, teddy roosevelt, fdr, and lyndon johnson. why did you pick those four? >> those were four i felt closest too. i spent the most time studying and interestingly each one of those four lived in a very turbulent time, in a time of crisis, which often makes leadership more necessary, more possible. when i chose the title, leadership in turbulent times, i didn't expect it to be as it was today. in a certain sense i hope it can give us reassurance. times we think we're living in the worst of times. yet if you look back at what faced lincoln when he first came into office. a civil war with 600,000 people who were going to die just on the horizon, if he had ever known out difficult it would be to get through those first months, he would thought he could not have lived through it. theodore roosevelt comes in the industrial revolution, there was fear of revolution, between labor and management would break out. fdr at the height of the depression. lbj with the assassination of jfk. they were fitted for their times. especially lbj for ci

senator lyndon johnson of texas, the senate majority leader, desperately wanted to be president but refused to enter the primaries because he knew he could not defeat kennedy in any primaries outside the south. johnson's strategy was to organize the south quietly and line-up delegates in the eight mountain west states that did not have primaries. lbj got the solid south. in the mountain west, kennedy outsmarted johnson. representative stewart udall from arizona stole the state delegation from former senate ernest mcfarland, lbj ally, and impose the rules so all of the voters were for kennedy. the new mexico state convention gave kennedy unexpected support after kennedy made a personal appearance. kennedy's college friend, byron white, a denver lawyer, captioned the colorado state convention for kennedy. ted kennedy won delegates, too. he got half the delegates in montana by agreeing to ride on a bronco. he stayed on for 10 seconds. [laughter] he also got another half though when he visited the ranch of one will delegate in utah, and kennedy, who personally flew airplanes, to reach the ranch

and in those presidents, many of those i would say, certainly franklin roosevelt and lyndon johnson,y were using power for expanding, except for war in vietnam, expanding the lives and the opportunities of the ordinary citizen. and that's a very different thing from just using power for self. but i do feel less pessimistic about the country than i think a lot of other people do. we've seen movements. we saw that women's march on the day of the inauguration. now we've seen new marches this year. and as long as there's still only 35% of the people that support president trump and feel good about what he's doing and they rightfully can support him, but that means there are 65% of the other people who are not happy with the direction in which his presidency is going. not even policywise but his temperament. then i think we're still safe, we don't have to worry we're entering into? terrible despotism. >> so again, you have examined in minute detail some of the great presidents of the united states. but another historian, shawn willens, wrote that perhaps it's not constructive to compare p

and, you know, i must say that both lyndon johnson and martin luther king jr. were two distinctly different individuals and men, but they came together in a very, very critical time in the life of this country. both of these men were committed to a more just, a more equal and a more democratic america. so they came together to make america much, much stronger. he came back in late 1965 to have a weekend with my parents and to discuss a move. he came to ask that my parents consider moving from selma to atlanta. it was so interesting, because my parents told him that they pretty much knew what they wanted to tell him, their decision, but he spent the night, and the next morning my , my parents let him know that they thanked him for the offer to relocate us to atlanta and to continue our lives there, but there was so much history here in this house, related to my mother's family, the civil rights movement. my father wanted him to know that they were going to stay here and keep the light shining in this house. because one never knows, martin, you may need to have a

book on lyndon johnson, what about the kennedys and fitzgeralds? okay. and how many people here agree that she's one of for most writers and historians. [cheers and applause] >> for those who don't know her brown, just very briefly, grew up in, new york, black lynn, and win to colby college, got her ph.d in harvard, white house fellow in the johnson administration, helped president johnson with his memoirs and then ultimately went back to teach at harvard and for the last number of years has been writing extraordinarily well received and terrific biographers and histories, and win ore the pulitzer prize for a become. so, you're going to be writing a new book coming out september 18th. it's on leadership. and it's about a book on the leadership skills of four people you have within pout. one is abraham lincoln, one is teddy roosevelt, one is franklin roosevelt and the other is lyndon johnson i want to ask you first, why did you decide to write a book about four different anymore you have already written books about them. why not pick somebody new. >> gues

[applause] wants to learn more about lyndon johnson, where is the lyndon johnson library?> in austin, texas, and we ask you to come. it is wonderful. we used to be the premiere library because we -- and we still are, in the sense that we have tapes of daddy talking. and he'll be talking to harry truman. i am fortunate enough to have met your great great aunt. both of them. princess alice was a hoot. [laughter] >> her younger sister was wonderful.

[applause] >> if someone wants to learn more about lyndon johnson, where is the lyndon johnson library? >> in austin, texas, and we ask you to come. it is wonderful. we used to be the premiere library because we -- and we still are, in the sense that we have tapes of daddy talking. and he'll be talking to harry truman. i am fortunate enough to have met your great great aunt. both of them. princess alice was a hoot. [laughter] >> her younger sister was wonderful. they took us to sagamore hill. president truman took me on a tour of his library. i have been blessed with getting to meet a lot of these people. so i hope they all come to the library of every president and learn. there are so many things. tofton continue about going many of the library's -- the li braries and learning. and daddy went too. and said, all these years i've been saying all those bad things before hoover. [applause] -- [laughter] >> i never knew he did all of those wonderful things to feed europe. >> is there a truman library? >> there is. it is in independence, missouri, about a mile from grandpa's house. >> why d

>> i think certainly with lyndon johnson it was hard.he kennedy people and harvard people didn't accept him. >> neil: you harvard people. >> at least that's what he said to me when i went back and went to work with him on the memoirs. don't you let those harvard people poison you about me. still come back and work with me. teddy roosevelt it was different. because he knew that he was ready to be president. he had been everything. he had been police commissioner, civil service commissioner. governor, soldier, vice president, and as soon as he got in there, he said the first day i am now president. he didn't feel that sense of inadequacy. >> he was pretty cocky, too. he it to reign that in. you have to have a pretty big ego to want the job. >> it was said about teddy he wanted to be the baby at the baptism and bride at the wedding and corpse at the funeral. >> neil: he was bigger than life character. they would put it on the line and sometimes some of their hardship fdr with polio and what have you, they can be life-defining and change emp

and, my question is, primarily, for the lyndon johnson foundation. ecause, at the time, when johnson was in politics, he was hard-core democrat, probably, if you can compare his presidency, to most progressive resident, until, barack obama. and, you know, when he retired, he, his estate was still pretty much solid -- blue democratic state, but now, pretty much, republican, and as conservative as can be. so, my question is, how difficult is it, to promote someone's legacy, in a political climate, that has changed profoundly, since the time they had existed? >> thank you. >> you are one of the reasons, that texas is now a red state, and a social blue state, is because of johnson. because of this sweeping civil rights, legislation, of the 1960s. it is a great story about, lbj, one of my favorites. and, he is talking to richard russell, and we now know richard russell, in the news, because, there is talk about renaming the russell senate building, the mccain senate building. richard russell, was a mentor, and a friend to lbj, and helped to extend the rank

many people had no idea who lyndon johnson was.he decided he would make his first priority passing the civil rights bill that had installed. somebody was writing, the republic was not going to live if congress couldn't figure out how to get something done together. his friends warned him, if you do this, a southern filibuster will inevitably materialize. you will get any other bill through. you'll be expending all of your power of the presidency on this one thing. he said to that person, what the hell is the presidency for then? is that unlike a poker player. i will put all my chips on one thing. i think he believed if he could get this out to desegregate, it would be better for the south. even though they may not believe it at the time. he believes the civil rights movement was at a stage or something had to be done or violence or problems would arise. he took that risk. it was one of the great moments of his presidency. despite the fact he did so much more in the next 18 months. medicare, medicaid. npr. pbs. immigration reform. a

congress passed almost 70% of his legislation and just under the% of the legendary lyndon johnson. the problem was however that he proposed david so much at the same time so many priorities, tax reform, health insurance and so forth, panama canal, treaties that he got lost and he had not the capacity of showing that half of [inaudible] was a victory. compromise became difficult to be achieved enormous amount but there was always paled in comparison to what we had proposed. the democratic party was very much split between he had two bases, southern conservatives and the northern liberals. in the senate in particular the house with tip o'neill they passed everything. the senate became an indian burial ground for the legislation because of the division. we achieved a lot but it was done with a lot of blood on the table. >> what about carter's working style? did he like to call the staff in and ask questions? >> david, you been a ceo and you interviewed ceos for your program and the president of the united states was chief executive officer of the largest enterprise in the world. trill

and me question is primarily for the lyndon johnson foundation. because at the time when johnson was in politics he was hard core democrat. probably if you can compare his presidency the most progressive president until barack obama. and, you know, when he retired he -- he was in a solid blue democratic state but now republican and conservative as can be. so my question is, how difficult is it to promote someone's legacy in a political climate that has changed profoundly in the time they had existed? >> thank you. >> you're one of the reasons that texas is now a red state as opposed to a blue state is because of lyndon johnson, because of the sweeping civil rights legislation of the 1960s. there's a great story about lbj, one of my favorites. he's talking to richard russell. richard russell is in the news because there's talk about renaming the russell senate building the mccain senate building. richard russell was a mentor and a friend to lbj and helped him to extend the ranks in the senate and lbj knew that when he was endeavoring to pass the civ

linda johnson robb is the first child of our 36th president, lyndon johnson. she lived in the white house during the last years of had her father's tenure in office from 1966 to 1969. and for over two decades has served as a trustee of the lbj foundation. and susan ford bails is the fourth child and only daughter of our 38th president, gerald ford. she lived in the white house during the -- a bulk of her father's presidency and since 1981 served as a trustee of the gerald ford presidential foundation. moderating our panel is david rubenstein, the co-founder and co-executive chairman of the carlyle group and our country's leading patriotic philanthropist. generously contributing to the preservation of our nation's history and culture. he is also the host of bloomberg the david rubenstein show. pure, pure conversation. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to this stage matthew mckinley, tweed roosevelt, linda johnson rob, susan ford bails and david rubenstein. >> i want to apologize as one of my roles of the chairman of the board and sorry the air conditioning h

dailyre lyndon johnson's -- sexual dalliances. there was a national press club that was a little boys club for journalists. here is warren g. harding at the national press club where he was a member. here is john kennedy getting his membership valid. objectivity had a real power, real benefits for those in power but even at the height of the influence, there was still plenty of political coverage that was happening that wasn't facts new york times reporting. national magazines like time to against the soul is objectivity of newspaper journalism. the press enjoyed having a say in who became president. a role they had had in the age as partisan papers. some of those were pretty loath to give them up. they single-handedly engineered their public denomination. not only did his magazine popularize what has been a pretty unknown candidate, he ensured that the coverage was uniformly positive. that was to the dismay of the journalists that were for him. there is a missive from one of taking off that said this train. all i can do is sit at

>> he's delivered, appointed more judges than any president i think going back to lyndon johnson. momentous shift. and we've had complaints from the right for decades about judicial overreach. and the fact that judges are making law from the bench. that's now going to be happening from a conservative perspective. and this is what the evangelical right was hoping for. >> briefly sum up. potentially could change the legal landscape of this country if judge kavanaugh becomes a swing vote in the supreme court. he would take the place of anthony kennedy, sometimes voted with conservatives, sometimes liberal. >> exactly. conservative justice replaced scalia, who died last year, president obama denied to fill that seat. two trump appointees. whole idea is shift the court to the right. main idea to get rid of reproductive rights for women in america. as mike pence has said for decades, i want to put roe v. wade on the ash heap of history. this is something think kavanaugh will do. >> you bring up mike pence, subject of your new book. call him shadow president. vice president of the united

president truman and president lyndon johnson are two examples, it seems to me, of people who surprised us because they did things that one would not have expected on the front end. senator from missouri, senator from texas become these remarkable advocates for civil rights and living up to the promise of the declaration. and they surprised us, and they led again kind of pointing forward as opposed to pointing at each other. and i think the presidents that stand largest in memory are those who actually challenge the assumptions of the people who already support them. >> and that was going to be my last question is what, as we look ahead, what kind of person is it who -- no president i can think of, maybe you disagree, ever has left the presidency thinking he was treated fairly by the press, democrat, republican, it doesn't matter what party they were. so far all the criticism, no president feels he was treated fairly. so what is that thing, that mysterious quality or out in the open quality, that a person needs to have in order to be able to tell his or her story to the american people?

there's a lot more to appalachia than that. >> anthony: in 1964, lyndon johnson declared his war on povertyncapable and bewildered helpless masse, missed the basic essential character -- the pride and the self-reliant core of the people here. that damage is lasting. >> elaine: when you come in and keep telling us how poor, fat -- how all these things are -- i think we've all felt it at some point. shame. >> anthony: what should people know about this area that they don't know, that they're not getting? >> nick: well, i think it's been said, but it's just not been hit home. it's just how much that people in this area have been exploited. [ bells ringing ] [ machines whirring ] >> nick: the land agents who came in and bought up all the mineral rights. the coal and timber companies that started extracting and taking everybody's labor rights. >> man: i can't fight a big coal company, they got too much money. >> elaine: politicians from dc that can make a quick day trip down here and get a good sound bite. >> trump: who is a miner in this group? who is -- stand up. you're all standing up anyway.

miss goodwin, your most recent book focuses on president lincoln, teddy roosevelt, fdr, and lyndon johnson. why did you pick those four? >> those were four i felt closest too. i spent the most time studying and interestingly each one of those four lived in a very turbulent time, in a time of crisis, which often makes leadership more necessary, more possible. when i chose the title, leadership in turbulent times, i didn't expect it to be as it was today. in a certain sense i hope it can give us reassurance. times we think we're living in the worst of times. yet if you look back at what faced lincoln when he first came into office. a civil war with 600,000 people who were going to die just on the horizon, if he had ever known out difficult it would be to get through those first months, he would thought he could not have lived through it. theodore roosevelt comes in the industrial revolution, there was fear of revolution, between labor and management would break out. fdr at the height of the depression. lbj with the assassination of jfk. they were fitted for their times. especially lbj for ci

it was a state that gave us lyndon johnson and the great society. it was at a time when they were coming around the stereotypes that we head of these two states is where we have now. the truth is they are constantly. we think of it texas and california. they revolve around each other. you never agree on anything. he is always talking about the danger ofan california case in patient and then the examples he gives are the dreadful things. his plastic straws. these are destroying america. it has a bumper kicker -- a bumper sticker. i don't know what that means. the concept w that california is what we are not in a works the other way. when i go to california and i've had people say where are you from and i an icy texas, i get that a lot anyway. wherefrom in texas. zero it's forgivable. the sense of being at odds. it's also a testament to the vigor of our democracy that it can contain that laboratories of democracy to allow them to express themselves so differently. sometimes dreadfulse consequences. the economy has just taken a nosedive. because of ide

congressman as a secret society in real pit people from 1954 with general mccarthy the minority leader lyndon johnson and others kennedy and eisenhower and is a lot of fun to learn about these a people to figure out how to write a dialogue by reading up on them. and and with that democratic senator nobody has ever heard of him today. [laughter] maybe this audience but a lot of people out there have never heard of l him in 1952 he ran for president and one all the primaries because back then literally it was rigged. the back room guys nominated someone else instead and he was frustrated so what would lbj say? i shouldn't make that mistake. so you start writing this on the obama administration? so why the mccarthy era washington? >> i started in the 1700s so i tried many, many times but i cannot write for john adams. and it is also naÏve. and that brought things home for me because then i could talk about washington as the modern era it would be weird. with american popular culture and it was horribly racist and beyond that with the red scare and segregation to be ruled unconstitutionall so if you writ

texas produced lyndon johnson and california produced ronald reagan and the modern conservative revolution so these things are are constantly in flux. but the ways in which california and texas revolve kind of like the double helix or something reinvolve around each other always opposing in a kind of dynamic conversation. it naturally brings up the question -- and i've been asked this million times. you know, will texas turn blue? or even purple -- and the answer is yes. it will. it when is only the question. the growth is in the cities -- even at suburbs which have been so -- so strong holds for republican party. new immigrants are coming and with different all of this growth brings in people who aren't a part of the texas political culture. and they have their own history it is -- in -- , in fact, working the opposite way, was my family. we moved to texas in -- 1956. my dad was a returning war veteran. and like many people who had fought under general eisenhower he an eisenhower republican so he moved to -- moved to abilene and then to dallas. because of the jobs -- people don't move to

king's funeral, so eugene mccarthy, bobby kennedy, hubert humphrey, richard nixon, president lyndon johnson because of security concerns is not attend, but king accorded the equivalent of a state funeral, and when we think about what is going on on college campuses, black communities, there is a huge sense of mourning. at times, a sense of rage and over 25 cities bereft in violence, but there is also a sense of organizing that takes place. when we think of the king assassination, and becomes a global event and there will be sympathy demonstrations around the world, europe, africa, latin america, sending telegrams to the king family and united states in solidarity with king's --ory, so he is really going the country is going to be reeling in the aftermath of his death. for a time, bobby kennedy, who anthe start of what becomes 82 day campaign for president, until he is assassinated on june 5, like andy young, one of king's lieutenants, mayonnaise and has said, many people start to transfer some of the feeling they had -- not necessarily the black power activist, but mainstream african-americ

fortas was an old friend of lyndon johnson's.ntil he tried to elevate him to chief justice in 1968 that the senate learned about just how close their relationship was. as the u.s. senate history website notes, quote, as a sitting justice he regularly attended white house staff meetings. he briefed the president on secret court deliberations, and on behalf of the president, he pressured senators who opposed the war in vietnam. and that closeness with the president is not even the scandal that ultimately led to fortas' resignation from the supreme court. there is a reason that our founders wanted distance between supreme court justice and the president. they never wanted a person sitting on the supreme court feel like they had any obligations to the president who appointed them. but now in the current nominee, we may not just have the sense of obligation, but also the sense that the nominee is an open, admitted partisan of the president and his political party. >> this whole two-week effort has been a calculated and orchestrated po

thoughts while manuel was speaking, when i was a boy, texas was blue and it's the state that gave us lyndon johnson and the great society thanked was in a time where nixon and reagan were coming along as you point out stereotypes that we have of two states is where we are now but the truth is there's constantly evolving and i think of texas and california as being like double, they resolve around each other, always in opposition, you never agree on anything but like our governor, our present governor, he's always talking about the danger of californiazation and the examples he gives are dreadful things like plastic bag bans an burdensome tree ordinance and lately plastic straws, these are destroying america. and i'm in a band, even the drum near my band has a bumper sticker that says stop californiacation of music, i don't know what that means. the concept of california is what we are not and work it is other way, when i go to california and people say, where are you from and i say texas, you know, i get that a lot any way, where in texas, austin, forgivable. [laughter] >> this sense of being at od

and what was, what people couldn't understand was lyndon johnson had just passed the 65 voting rights act. and two weeks later it was watts and the question is what's going on here? we are having progress, we are seeing things progress and yet this violence happens and what white america didn't know is that these thing that had built up from these migrations during the wars were really pestering places of injustice and police brutality. and it was just too little, too late. so we begin with watson 65 and cleveland in 1966 we have the rebellion . and it is, comes out of almost nowhere. again, the community has no idea that this is coming that it has been building up and the african-american community certainly knows what's coming. the mayor of the city is the tallest guy in this picture. he had no clue. he was not a bad guy, he had no clue how to deal with most of his african-american citizens. he just didn't relate to them, had no idea what their issues were. you can see the befuddlement ashe walks through in the half rebellion . now on the other side of the black freedom movement we

when i was working with lyndon johnson, everything was going great. i knew he had a womanizing reputation, but i was talking to him about steady boyfriends even when i had no boyfriends at all. everything was going great. one day he wanted to discuss our relationship, which sounded ominous when he took nearby to the lake, called lake lyndon johns johnson. he had wine and cheese. he started out, doris, more than any other woman than i have ever known, and then he said you remind me of my mother. [laughter] >> it was pretty embarrassing given what was going on in my mind, but somehow i was at harvard, i was an intellectual, here was his mother. the interesting thing is that even though he had those talents when he was young, all he really wanted to be following his father. and after a while, he only wanted to read books. he said is it real? is it about somebody in history? he didn't want to read fiction. he didn't want to expand that mind. he wanted to go with his father on the campaign trail, go with him to the state legislature and politics became his

have been elected president 1968 but it is my contention he would have been had it not been for lyndon johnson's undermining of the presidential campaign. saw with a quick biographic sketch with regard to humphrey's life herbert humphrey was born 1911 a pharmacist born in wallace south dakota population 200 people, his father was a pharmacist who constantly brought a law to market and with 500 people before the pharmacy finally collapsed and he had to sell out to walgreens and the end of the family business. but humphrey himself went to the university of minnesota as an undergrad and had to leave after a couple of years due to finances took a crash course in pharmacy helped his father then went back to minnesota to get his undergraduate degree in political science where he blossomed as a student and as a thinker among others as his teacher and political advisor with someone named efron kirkpatrick and also the husband of jean kirkpatrick that ended up in the administration of ronald reagan. in any event and then went off to seek his masters degree at louisiana state university. and while in new

kennedy, lyndon johnson, bill clinton, and barack obama.s american liberalism promotes a mixed regime, what they consider a mixture of private and public. a mixed regime, a balanced regime. the idea is mixing the private free market economy, free-market capitalism, private business and so on, with the public being a large federal government role for managing that economy and promoting social justice through various social programs. so it is a mixture of private and public, free-market capitalism, private property exchange, competition and so on. and a large central government regulating that, for the public good. since the 1960's, both political parties, democrat and republican, have endorsed this mixed view of american politics. a mixture of public and private. neither a pure -- except for smaller groups on the political spectrum such as libertarians on the free market side that want almost no government and socialist and communist on the far left who want total government control. except for the extremes, which are pretty small, neither p

rational, too cerebral, who don't have in their dna what ever the political gene is that enables a lyndon johnson the most extreme example, to thrive. brian: what were the circumstances in 1932? did he run again and what happened? richard: he ran again, was nominated by the republican convention. another issue that complicated life, particularly for the republicans, because by and large they had a lot of rural supporters and republican party was split on prohibition. cosmopolitan, figure who did not mind taking a sworn, unlike was warren harding, to enforce the law. in 1932, he was on the unpopular side of the issue. by 1932, a lot of people, including regional supporters of prohibition, had concluded that in many ways it had backfired. he was carrying that weight. he had the depression. inability ton inspire. radio.nk of fdr and hoover was on the radio. the difference was, hoover was once asked if he found it exciting speaking on the radio, and he said it was as exciting as talking to a doorknob. that is the engineer. he ran again. the bonus army came to town. measures were still being debated a

texas produced lyndon johnson and california produced ronald reagan and the modern conservative revolution so these things are are constantly in flux. but the ways in which california and texas revolve kind of like the double helix or something reinvolve around each other always opposing in a kind of dynamic conversation. it naturally brings up the question -- and i've been asked this million times. you know, will texas turn blue? or even purple -- and the answer is yes. it will. it when is only the question. the growth is in the cities -- even at suburbs which have been so -- so strong holds for republican party. new immigrants are coming and with different all of this growth brings in people who aren't a part of the texas political culture. and they have their own history it is -- in -- , in fact, working the opposite way, was my family. we moved to texas in -- 1956. my dad was a returning war veteran. and like many people who had fought under general eisenhower he an eisenhower republican so he moved to -- moved to abilene and then to dallas. because of the jobs -- people don't move to