later i met don kendall the the ceo of pepsi cola and he said to me now, i know you you knew lyndon johnson you were young girl, but i have a story you don't know and he said when richard nixon first became president, he asked kendall to go to johnson's ranch to talk about some private controversial matter. he said i get to the ranch johnson's working on his memoirs. says, how can i remember what happened 20 years ago 30 years ago. the only chapters are any good at all. i had this little taping my system on my oval office and then i have verbatim conversations of all these deals i made with the congressman those chapters are really coming alive. so you go back and tell you good friend nixon as he starts his presidency. there is nothing more important than a taping system. by lyndon johnson contrib ute, thank you all very much. thank youso i think that one oft exciting things about history and about world history is the way in which we discover how there are big patterns that in a sense rule our lives and big patterns that sometimes touch the life of an individual person or in which an indiv

in the last hour, congressman mills with a secret backing of lyndon johnson who pretended he did not even know about this, made the bill three times larger than it would have been. absolutely right. should we have tried to get everybody under the system? laurence is right. it would have been great. if you studied the politics of the day, what they got was something extraordinary, the tripling of the size of the program in the historical context of 1965. and get it through the senate finance committee where the finance chair was absolutely opposed was nothing less than legislative genius by lyndon johnson. this was a very difficult package to pass and they managed to do it because of the landslide and because lyndon johnson helped spear this thing through the ways and means committee and senate finance committee, something many other presidents, including kennedy, could never have managed. host: our guests are with us to talk about the creation of medicare and medicaid. our first call is from homer in louisiana. caller: it is very confusing. i am 80 years old and a vietnam era veteran

all of the lyndon johnson i focus on, how could you not? those are just some. i end up reading like a grad student. i read indexes and parts of books that i need. but those are some authors that i find myself going back to. hw brand's, just to give one book plug, heirs of the founders is a great one to learn about. webster, clay and calhoun in one book. host: now, how far do things have to go back in history before people start forgetting them? for example, there's always this conversation about the southern strategy and whether democrats actually changed to republicans. but i am like, you don't remember the longtime democrat who became a republican? how far back in the past to do things have to get before people start claiming, i don't remember that happened. guest: i want to be careful. the term literacy was used. i want to be careful of not being a smarty-pants. podcasting, we are not a college. you want to keep it by its nature, we have to talk to people, just like c-span. i've been watching it for very long time. but, you have to engage. so, we don't have

what do we do when and how can we possibly catch up to the soviet union and he turned to lyndon johnson to help him answer that question. because johnson i said kennedy wasn't really engaged on the issue of space until 1960. well, lyndon johnson was engaged from the moment that sputnik went on that very day. he jumped into the fray and he was the principal mover behind nasa for example, and so he was kennedy's point person in the white house on space and kennedy turned to johnson and said help me figure this out. and johnson already knew the answer and he went around amassing support very quickly for it from other parts of the government. and that was that we had to pledge to go to the moon. this was something that had been discussed with the nasa and elsewhere for for some time, but never that seriously, but what johnson saw and what ultimately kennedy concluded was that if we weren't going to be able to catch the soviets in the next couple of years, maybe if you set a goal that was almost a decade away a goal that was going to require the creation of new technology that no one had env

. >> president lyndon baines johnson died in 1973. lady bird lived on until 2007, dying at the age of 94. you will hear it now from the last part of her life, as she reflected on her continuing work and on lbj's legacy. >> what do you think -- not what's your hope, but what do you think will be in long term history, lyndon johnson's legacy? or, what will people remember 50 years from now? >> i don't know. he would've liked it to be the education process. that is where he placed all his hopes. he wanted a passport out of poverty. it's the one thing that can't be taken away from you. as education. i think it will probably be civil rights, and i think it will be so right and appropriate that it should have been a southern president who managed to do that. it's bothersome, very painful. lots of good friends from the south. i don't think they intended for it to go on forever. i'm just a professional southerner. as well as a professional texan. >> how much influence did you have on him? when it came to civil rights? >> oh, he had his own pa

lyndon johnson's legacy. what will people remember? 50 years now i don't know. he would have liked it to be the education president. that is what he placed all his hopes on he said it's the only passport out of poverty. and it's the one thing that can be taken away from him. as education i think it'll probably be civil rights and i think it is so peculiarly, right? and appropriate that it should have been a southern president. who managed to do that? and part of some very painful loss of good friends from the south and i don't think i don't think they intended for it to go on forever, i think. well, i'm just a professional southerner. as well as a professional. texan how much influence did you have on him when it came to civil rights? oh, i just think. he healed his own path made his own decisions, but i think we all knew it was going to happen someday. and yes, it would be it would be shake yourself like being in a mixed master sort of but i think it. i think it will be. well over over top education where's vietnam going to fit in? as a wretched obstacle along

he turned to lyndon johnson to help him into that question. because johnson, i said kennedy wasn't really engaged on the issue of space until 1960, lyndon johnson was engaged from the moment that sputnik went up. that very day he jumped into the fray, he was the principal mover behind nasa, for example. and so, he was kennedy's point person in the white house on space, kennedy turned the johnson it's and help me figure this out. and johnson already knew the answer, and he went around amassing support very quickly for it from other parts of the government. and that was all we had pledged to go to the moon. this was something that had been discussed within nasa and elsewhere for sometime but never that seriously. what johnson saw, and what ultimately kennedy concluded, was that if we weren't going to be able to catch the soviets in the next couple of years maybe if you set a goal that was almost a decade away, goal that was going to require the creation of new technology that no one handed that was going to require massive expenditure over long p

talked about how presidents like abraham lincoln, theodore roosevelt, franklin roosevelt and lyndon johnson sought refuge from the pressures of their job with sports, fishing, theater and even poker. and at 2:00 p.m. on the presidency, bigraphical author and her book, tells the story of the former first lady who was a trained geologist and joined herbert haofbger in his world war i relief efforts before moving into the white house in 1929. exploring the american story. watch american history tv saturdays on c-span2. and find a full schedule on your program guide or watch online any time at c-span.org/history. >> book tv every sunday on c-span2 features leading authors talking about their latest nonfiction books. at 8:00 p.m. eastern, from freedom fest, journalist glen greenwald talks about his latest, securing democracy. about freedom of the press in brazil under president bolsonaro and liberal media outlets in the u.s. at 10:00 p.m. eastern on afterwords, former george w. bush white house press secretary on how the mainstream media has a leftist bais and his book. why the press gets so muc

this is not a revolutionary bill, assured lyndon johnson when he signed it. first tip that it was in fact a revolutionary bill. then there was this, on the senate floor ted kennedy of massachusetts, when out of his way to explain that the democratic party was absolutely not trying to replace the american population with more compliant, foreign-born voters. no way, that is an insane conspiracy theory, he explained. this bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. it will not upset the ethnic mix of our society, it will not relax the standards of admission. it will not cause american workers to lose their jobs. [laughs] it's all bitterly amusing when you look back because of course that is precisely what this bill did. it changed america completely and forever and the numbers show it. in the years since that legislation passed the united states total population exploded by 140 million people. you are seeing that chart on your screen now. what direction does appoint? steadily upward. where did all those people come from? there's nothing wrong with more peopl

as soon as the bombing began and lyndon johnson americanized a war and he sent ground troops and began a bombing campaign that really pulled us into the war. fully and so king called the negotiations, but again, he was hesitant because again speaking out against the war but you know, it just distracts from the issue the main issue you're concerned about but it really it stuck with them snick in january of 1966 as after one of their try with jimmy jackson. i think jimmy lee jackson. no. birthday sammy young sammy young was a veteran and a navy veteran sneak organizer was shot and killed at a gas station when he tried to use a white. restroom which again was illegal the civil rights act outlaw that so with that sneak finally came out and wrote a statement against warren vietnam opposing the war in vietnam saying they would support people who chose not to go to vietnam and as a result of that julian julian bond was not seated. he was elected to the state legislature at georgia. remember nick they refused to see them. so this is the reaction right? king leaves the protest about bonds failu

we know the history and the fact is allow people to talk about even today that lyndon johnson's great society programs failed. nothing could be further from thetruth . that rich society did not fail and you just mentioned headstart. that was a great assignment and it's stillgoing on today . another united states senator , a new president of south carolina today. was headstart's posterchild . and now he's president of the university. headstart did not fail. >> folks may not know, we should point out headstart is a program that ensures that poor children have access to learning and literacy in those critical years when you're free and four years old. when the brain is s literally growing and neurons are firing fgand if you don't engage parts of the brain during that time the science says it attributes. it's really part lyof how you change the world is invest in young people butparticularly the very young .so along with my parents that exposed me to reading and a love for learning and i like to say to folks thall the time and i'm giving speeches particularly at an audience with all the s

lyndon johnson came with a so-called brick society program.nd i don't have to tell you are youin a native of georgia, me of south carolina, we know the alhistory of the states. the fact a lot of people talk about even today that lyndon johnson's great society programs failed. nothing could be further from the truth. the great society did not fail i was a great society program. it is still going on today. to you and other united states senators. the new president of south carolina state. he was headstart's poster child on itsow 50th anniversary. now he's president of the university. it did not fail precursor people who may not know we should point out that headstart is a program that ensuresr poor children have access to learning and literacy in those critical years. when you are three and four years old and the brain is literally growing and that neurons are firing. if you do not engage parts of the brain during that time the science says it atrophy's. it's really part of how you change the world asor you invest in young people. but particular

eastern, a talk about how presidents like president lincoln, franklin roosevelt, and lyndon johnson sought refuge from their job with sports, fishing, and even poker. at 2 p.m. on the presidency, the life and times of first lady lou henry hoover, telling the story of the former first lady a trained geologist,, who joined herbert hoover in his world war i belief efforts -- relief efforts before moving into the white house in 1929. exploring the american story. watch american history tv saturdays on c-span2 and find a full schedule on your program guide, or watch online anytime at c-span.org/history. announcer: as the house finished legislative work, house speaker nancy pelosi briefed reporters on the house agenda. she said it is immoral, almost criminal for senate republicans to vote against passage of a bill that would provide medical coverage for veterans who have been exposed to toxins. the speaker also touched on passage of legislation to increase domestic supply of computer chips and her confidence in the reinstatement of the assault weapons ban. >> good morning, everyone. here we are,

>> you know, at the end of the book i note that otis, after years of trying, finally -- lyndon johnson said, okay, give this -- give him a silver star for what he did and then at the ceremony when he was getting the star, he is talking about draft dodgers and flag burner and he said we didn't have that in my world. he wad one guy, named alvin york, who was a hero. i think they wanted recognition. he would talk about otis -- he wrote this pick affidavit and didn't even mention york, like york one even there she was being a little untruth. but i don't think they got the credit they see served, including the wounds that died there. one last thing if i have time. the import of what york and this patrol did goes way past just those -- they took the right of the german line in that area. that allowed companies e and g, the 32 independent infantry to advance west to he railway line which was supplying that whole portion of the german army. happen octoberle. october 9th the germans started with drawing from the aragon forest and the war was over. >> that's a great point and that's something i

>> at the and of the book i know half after years of trying, otis matthew, finally got lyndon johnson to give him a silver star for what he did that day. at the ceremony when he was getting the star, you can see how he was talking about draft orders, flag burners, things like that. he said, we didn't have that in my war, we had one guy alvin york, he was a hero. i think they wanted recognition. otis, he would brought a big affidavit. he basically never even mention york. it was as if york wasn't even there. i think he was up being a little untruthful about that. i don't think they got the credit they deserved. including the ones that died at the scene. let me say one last thing if i have time, the import of white york did goes way past those men that they collected. they took the right of the german line in that area. that allowed companies ian g of the 220 intra tree to advance west to the discount railway line, which was supplying that whole portion of the german army in that area. that opened on october 8th, october 9th the german started withdrawing from the forest. a month later

at 10:00 a.m., presidential historian talks about how presidents like lincoln, roosevelt and lyndon johnson sought refuge from the pressures of their job with sports, fishing and poker. and 2:00 p.m. and "women of adventure" and tells the story of the former first lady who was a trained geologist and herbert hoover before moving into the white house in 1929. exploring the american story. watch american history tv saturdays on c-span 2 and watch online any time at c-span. org/history. book tv every sunday on c-span 2 features leading authors talking about their latest nonfiction books from freedom fest, lean greenwald about freedom of the press in brazil and liberal media outlets and on "afterwords" ari fleisher how the mainstream stream media and the press gets so much wrong and doesn't care. he is interviewed by juan williams. watch booktv on c-span 2 and watch online any time at book tv. org. >> the world's first general electronic computer was a top secrete army project during world war ii and weighed 30 tons and sunday night, an internet governance expert and the awe tore of "proving gr

all of the lyndon johnson i focus on, how could you not? those are just some. end up reading like a grad student. i read indexes and parts of books that i need. but those are some authors that i find myself going back to. hw brand's, just to give one book plug, heirs of the founders is a great one to learn about. webster, clay and calhoun in one book. host: now, how far do things have to go back in history before people start forgetting them? for example, there's always this conversation about the southern strategy and whether democrats actually changed to republicans. but i am like, you don't remember the longtime democrat who became a republican? how far back in the past to do things have to get before people start claiming, i don't remember that happened. guest: i want to be careful. the term literacy was used. i want to be careful of not being a smarty-pants. podcasting, we are not a college. you want to keep it by its nature, we have to talk to people, just like c-span. i've been watching it for very long time. but, you have to engage. so, we don't have th

in the last hour, congressman mills with a secret backing of lyndon johnson who pretended he did notn know about this, made the bill three times larger than it would have been. absolutely right. should we have tried to get everybody under the system? laurence is right. it would have been great. if you studied the politics of the day, what they got was something extraordinary, the tripling of the size of the program in the historical context of 1965. and get it through the senate finance committee where the finance chair was absolutely opposed was nothing less than legislative genius by lyndon johnson. this was a very difficult package to pass and they managed to do it because of the landslide and because lyndon johnson helped spear this thing through the ways and means committee and senate finance committee, something many other presidents, including kennedy, could never have managed. host: our guests are with us to talk about the creation of medicare and medicaid. our first call is from homer in louisiana. caller: it is very confusing. i am 80 years old and a vietnam era veteran. ri

in the last hour, congressman mills with a secret backing of lyndon johnson who pretended he did notn know about this, made the bill three times larger than it would have been. absolutely right. should we have tried to get everybody under the system? laurence is right. it would have been great. if you studied the politics of the day, what they got was something extraordinary, the tripling of the size of the program in the historical context of 1965. and get it through the senate finance committee where the finance chair was absolutely opposed was nothing less than legislative genius by lyndon johnson. this was a very difficult package to pass and they managed to do it because of the landslide and because lyndon johnson helped spear this thing through the ways and means committee and senate finance committee, something many other presidents, including kennedy, could never have managed. host: our guests are with us to talk about the creation of medicare and medicaid. our first call is from homer in louisiana. caller: it is very confusing. i am 80 years old and a vietnam era veteran. ri

talked about how presidents like abraham lincoln, theodore roosevelt, franklin roosevelt and lyndon johnson sought refuge from the pressures of their job with sports, fishing, theater and even poker. and at 2:00 p.m. on the presidency, bigraphical author and her book, "a woman of adventure: the life and times of first lady hoover" tells story of the first lady who was a trained geologist and joined herbert haofber in his world war i relief efforts before moving into the white house in 1929. exploring the american story. watch american history tv saturdays on c-span2. and find a full program schedule at c-span.org/history. >> the world's first general purpose electronics computer was a top secret u.s. army project during world war ii. it weighed 30 tons and took up 1800 square feet. sunday night on q&a, an internet governance expert at american university college of law and the author of proving ground talks about the six american women who programmed it and her efforts to get their work known to the larger public. >> john was the visionary of it and he worked to build it. who were the women

churchill because it would've defended his his realism in 1955, the year churchill died, then lyndon johnson's former hubert humphrey said that he had the undertaking got it was exhilarated and he said and i quote, we ought to be excited about this challenge because here's where we can put to work some of the ideas about the nationbuilding. and the nationbuilding is a semi- oxymoron. it is a contradiction in terms, the phrase of building. and as churchill knew, nations like orchids or organic growth, they are not to be assembled and dissipate assembled and reassembled. and as churchill also know, common as he did from a european ruins, leaders who are not in history, are apt to blunder and they will make that history and low ruins. 200 years ago, this year, honor nations 46 independence day, july 4th, 1821, then secretary of state john wednesday adams delivered a measured statement of what he considered america's proper stance towards the world. and i want to review a portion of one paragraph on it because it is in anticipation i think from a version of churchill's realism pretty secretary of

would've in offended his insistence on real listen. 1965, the year churchill died, president lyndon johnson's vice president, former minnesota senator hubert humphrey, said he thought the vietnam undertaking was exhilarating. he said and i quote, we ought to be excited about this challenge because here is where we can put to work some of the ideas about nation building. now, the phrase nation building is a semi oxymoron. it is a contradiction in terms, i can to the phrase working the building. as trips on, new nations, like orchids, our organic growth. they are not things to be assembled and disassembled like tinker toys. and as churchill also new, coming as he did from a european strewn with ruins, leaders who are not steeped in history, not marinated in history, are apt to blunder. and by blundering, they will make bad history and more ruins. 200 years ago this year, on our nation's 46th independence day, july 4th, 1821, then secretary of state john quincy adams delivered a lucid and measured statement of what he considered americas proper stance towards the world. i want to read you a port

all of the lyndon johnson i focus on, how could you not? those are just some.nd up reading like a grad student. i read indexes and parts of books that i need. but those are some authors that i find myself going back to. hw brand's, just to give one book plug, heirs of the founders is a great one to learn about. webster, clay and calhoun in one book. host: now, how far do things have to go back in history before people start forgetting them? for example, there's always this conversation about the southern strategy and whether democrats actually changed to republicans. but i am like, you don't remember the longtime democrat who became a republican? how far back in the past to do things have to get before people start claiming, i don't remember that happened. guest: i want to be careful. the term literacy was used. i want to be careful of not being a smarty-pants. podcasting, we are not a college. you want to keep it by its nature, we have to talk to people, just like c-span. i've been watching it for very long time. but, you have to engage. so, we don't have the

and that a lot of people talk about even today that lyndon johnson great society programs fail.othing can be further from the truth. the great society did not fail. that was a great society program and still going on today. the new president of south carolina state his poster child on the 50th anniversary. >> we should point out headstart is a program that ensures that poor children have access to learning and literacy in those' critical years when you are three and four years old when the brain is growing inim the neurons are firing. if you don't engage parts of the brain durin' that time, the science says it will atrophy. it is part of how you change the world is to invest in the young people. and those that exposed me to reading and the love for learning. and i would like to say at a time when i'm giving speeches to an audience with all of the sophisticated folks who were there and those who have degrees and credentials. i hate to share it with you but as smart as you are you will never be as smart as you are when you are four years old. [laughter] that's an important place t

lyndon johnson c, millard fillmore. >> yeah, it's got to be miller. got to be miller. gotta be miller name like mildred. i >> yeah. it just sounds like i guess it is c miller or fillmore. i love getting it done. manual . >> well that's all right. let's go to the tie breaker number ten here we go . >> by the way, those aret the weirdest parent teacher nights ever. yeah, tce e we just stay home. do we have to go to we have to right here . has the tiebreaker. >>ho failure is good. and the hot dogs do americansry eat f every fourth of july? weekend? it's in the millions. >> how many hot dogs dot americans eat every fourth ofev july? >> what's the number wigglers? i three hundred and thirty million americans. i have about twenty hot dogs say, okay, the answers are in . >> this is the best hot dogs are. suman oh , you're right. they are. i'm going five hundred and fifty million. i'm going 500 million. five hundred . oh i went hypergrowth. >> okay what do we got. a hundred and fifty reno cats in all you know. e areyo you sure you win a gift card to chick fillet on the sun . r

so what happened in the mid- sixties is lyndon johnson had the war onon poverty and in my opinion foro marry the government and in had men to abandon their responsibilities 0 percent of the kids, 13 public high schools in the inner-city. and those that are math proficient in the inner-city it is not the amount of money and any other country in the world any other at spends more but 75 percent can not read estate proficiency levels and those are low andhe they keep lowering them so they can be met and the math scores are not much better. and then to have a spiritual problem. with the school to jail pipeline and this would hold you back. a few years ago but baltimore had a black mayor so number one and number two in the police department and then the state attorney who had proper charges all the majority black and the attorney general of america and president of the united states and talking about systemic racism in my opinion you are not helping people other than despite circumstances it is a series of choices and end up with a better result. a poor black kid raised by two parents have

this is not a revolutionaryssur bill assured lyndon johnson when he signed itn the first tii that it wasn in fact a revolutionary bill . and then there was this inio the senate for ted kennedy of massachusetts. the man who drove the bill went out of his way to explain this. the democratic party was absolutely not trying to replace the american population with more compliant foreign born voters. for no way. that's an insane conspiracy theory. he explained, quote, this bill will not flood our citiesci .ti immig the immigrants kennedy said itr. will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. n it will not relax the standards of admission. it will not cause american workers to lose their jobs. >> it it's all bitterly amusing when you look back at it because of course, that is precisely what this bill did. this bill changed america completely bill and forever. and the numbers show it in the years since that legislationn passed, the united states total populationle explodedited by one hundred 140 and forty million people. you're seeing that chart on your screen t ch right now.in whatt? direc

lyndon johnson enlisted the south to support much of his great society legislation. bill clinton had to govern mostly with a republican-controlled congress. when barack obama had congressional majorities, he chose to priority universal health care over other important social issues, including gay marriage. sometimes compromise leads to greater outcomes. the kennedy/hatch immigration bill was a better bill that either party could have passed. some of joe manchin's arguments in the past year have similarly been credible. he argued against making bills look affordable by shoving in lots of programs, but funding them only in a year in the hope they'll get extended. on climate his view we should not choke off fossil fuels until we have enough green technologies might be self-serving for the senate from west virginia, but it also happens to be an accurate read of where we are today. more importantly, please remember that joe manchin represents a state that donald trump won by about 40 points in 2020. the wonder is surely that he's willing to go as far as he has already. if

president kennedy 12,000 military advisers, then lyndon johnson decided to send 100,000 there, but thenr 500,000 people. and uh, every time they said that we almost achieved the result. that's just another additional 200,000 passed. but just some other new weapon, let's give it to south vietnam and everything will go fine and the result. uh, south vietnam initially no one said that this is the vital interest of the united states it was in general, there was a selective war and they thought that it will be possible to maintain the regime in the city of sky e with very limited costs and with minimal risk for the united states itself. and then it turned out that this war dealt a blow not only to american foreign policy prestige, but if you want to the spirit and stability of america itself, and now i am looking at ukraine not a democratic country is a corrupt country, but with an impudent elite, but which, in general, no one really needs this country, except maybe more, uh, as a military buffer against russia, uh, this country gradually really becoming an important interest of the united s

lyndon johnson, the new president was the one who presided instead. in a very fitting moment he decided to add to some of the choices that kennedy had made two names. one was pope john xxiii, kennedy had not given to him posthumously because he died the previous summer because he believed in the separation of church and state. and the other was given to president kennedy, the founder of these awards. i just loved what you said at the beginning after the last couple of weeks in this country and some of the things that have happened to all of us, it is so nice to see a happy occasion like this with great choices. and one i would like to single out, not above the others, but just as one example. diane nash. civil rights, human rights champion. worked with martin luther king. freedom writer in 1961. she risked her life to bring human rights to her fellow americans. that was 61 years ago. that was only one quarter of american history. we are a young country and sadly, we are still dealing with some of the struggles we were dealing with in 1961 and also in

blessed all of the way to lyndon johnson in 1955 when he finally got an invitation on the. later on, ronald reagan had immigration reform and then george w. bush actually was even to this day, a champion of immigrants. but the white working class base of the republican party does not want anymore because they see information and threats to their status and also to personal economics some of you might be able to take the job. so those two are arm more like their coming in. for the working classes much more of an issue with them and also a cultural issue because they worry about being replaced. the biggest who coming in right now, not so much for mexico but more from central america. that's been over the last few years. and it makes it very difficult for this really no agreement on this issue of society. it has been going on for a while and obama was able to get the question settled. could not get it settled biden would like to but you know, i don't know. so it's a tough question in american society. very relevant of our cultural today right now. >> so we have this political

and what franklin roosevelt and lyndon johnson and even bill clinton understood was the way you get peoplee democrats in the right line is they say we are the party that is government to help the little guy. that's what obama did with obamacare. that's why we're so important to him. and he prioritized obamacare over everything else. now you may look back and say, why didn't obama do game eric at that moment? at that moment he said my opportunity was to take this once a lifetime opportunity that i have that is going to push for some that want to raise tens of millions of americans who don't have health care. i'm saying is, you gotta focus. >> let me just say this for eight. you are right. and even the members of the lgbtq community talk to me about it. they believe that you are right. i listened, of course we can have a discussion about pronouns, that's all well and good. but where we are right now, culturally, where we are right now politically. where we are right now, socially. if we looser democracy, then we can't have those conversations about pronouns. and the priority, right now, unti

he was going to be the most transformational president since lyndon johnson and f.d.r. certainly more transformational than the man that he served as vice president to, barack obama. none of us were prepared for that. he didn't go out in the campaign and say i'm going to be a transformational president with radical agenda to change america. he said i'm going to be a normal guy, a traditional democrat and i'm not in your face like president donald trump has been every single day. so he ill prepared the american people and he had a razor thin margin in the house and a 50/50 senate. yet he was trying to do things bigger than l.b.j., bigger than barack obama. he was set up for failure and it was his fault, not the fault of events that occurred a year or more than a year in his administration. some of the problems of which he created like the inflation problem. he pushed for a $2 trillion stimulus bill at a time when we were already facing the likelihood of growing inflation. he made it worse. >> and you know, fair or not, presidents when it comes to their long-term legacies

is it that you want to stand for and people to know about you, and what franklin roosevelt and lyndon johnson and even bill clinton understood, the way you get people to see the democrats in the right light is to say we are the party that uses government to help the little guy. that is what obama did with obamacare. that is why it was so important . he prioritize that over everything else. you may look back and say why didn't obama domarriage? at that moment he was saying my priority is to take this once- in-a-lifetime opportunity i have and push forward something that will raise tens of millions of americans. you have to focus. >> we say this. you are right. even members of the lgbtq community say you are right. of course we can have a discussion about pronouns. that is well and good. where we are right now culturally, where we are right now politically, where we are right now socially, if you leisure democracy, then you cannot have those conversations. and the priority right now, not that those things are not on the list, but the priority should be saving the democracy. whether a democrat o

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before he was supposed to do it, so the first ones were handed out actually by new president lyndon johnsonone of those he gave was posthumously to john f. kennedy. very poignantly. >> all right. so what we're seeing today very poignantly as well, is a posthumous honor for the late senator john mccain. it's getting a lot of attention because of the political times we're living in. what do you make of president biden giving this to him? what do you make of donald trump not giving it to him? >> well, what a president is doing in these days is sort of showing you what his values and goals are by showing you who -- the people he's giving the presidential medal to. so when donald trump gave the presidential medal to rush limbaugh, that made a statement. today biden is doing it with john mccain showing he wants to be bipartisan. >> somebody who was able to reach across the aisle or say no to his own party when he thought it was the right thing to do. here is president biden and the medal of freedom ceremony. >>> good afternoon. welcome to the white house. i know this is kind of an old place for s