he is not going to be lyndon johnson ronald reagan or george bush. he is going to be who he is. and i think george bush is always known as a very friendly guy. >> as bill clinton. >> but george bush also had horrendous relations with many of the leaders and countries in the world. the president has very good relations. his style has worked for him. >> but help me understand. this is really interesting. because we are right at the point of understanding. i mean you have seen him up close, up close up personal. you've talked about life. you've talked about culture. all those kinds of things. where does that come from. is that all in the first book that he wrote that explains being an outsider explains the lifestyle he's had. is that what is in the end shaped the guy that's been president and we expect him to be things that he's not because his experiences were different? >> i mean, i think the first book, you know is having a president to have written a memoir like, gives people a window into his-- the creation of his identity and a way in which other you may not have for other pr

he's not going to be lyndon johnson or ronald reagan or george bush. he's going to be who he is he -- george bush was always known as a friendly guy. charlie: as bill clinton was. dan: but george bush also had horrendous relations with many leaders in countries in the world. the president has good relations. his style has worked for him. charlie: help me understand now, this is interesting. we're right at the point of understanding, you've seen him up close, up close and personal, talked about life, talked about culture, all those kinds of things. where does that come from? is that all in the first book he wrote? that explains being an outsider, explains the lifestyle he's had, is that what's in the end shaped the guy that's been president and we expect him to be things that he's not because his experiences were different? dan: i think the first book, having a president who wrote a memoir like that gives you a window into the creation of his identity and a way that you might not have for other presidents. that was the book of a person running for presi

lyndon johnson. some are outside leaders like ronald reagan.ernity -- we all know who are the stand-out leaders. we knew in my era scoop jackson, sam nunn on defense were good for seven or eight votes in a tight vote any time. we knew that dick lugar on foreign policy was good for six or seven votes. they were leaders in their area. all of you on this committee know who the half-a-dozen leaders of this committee are. i don't know who they are but you know. and certainly the ranking member and chairman know who they are. and a coalition of those can be put together. but the key is not do you have the leadership. there is a does the little leadership group agree on the goal that they want to reach. if they don't agree on the goal, no quantity of leadership is going to make any difference. >> all right. thank you. second question deals with, you did all this work in '86. no sooner was the ink dry on all that legislation and we started clanging it. a whole lot over time. did you ever think at a time that we'd see this kind of change that quickly an

lyndon johnson. some are outside leaders like ronald reagan. everyone in the senate -- there is a small fraternity -- we all know who are the stand-out leaders. we knew in my era scoop jackson, sam nunn on defense were good for seven or eight votes in a tight vote any time. we knew that dick lugar on foreign policy was good for six or seven votes. they were leaders in their area. all of you on this committee know who the half-a-dozen leaders of this committee are. i don't know who they are, but you know. and certainly the ranking member and chairman know who they are. and a coalition of those can be put together. but the key is not do you have the leadership. does the little leadership group agree on the goal that they want to reach. if they don't agree on the goal, no quantity of leadership is going to make any difference. >> all right. thank you. second question deals with, you did all this work in '86. no sooner was the ink dry on all that legislation and we started changing it. we started changing it a whole lot, over time. did you ever thi

lyndon johnson. are-some are outside leaders like ronald reagan. but everybody in the senate, there's a small fraternity. we all know who are the standout leaders. we knew in my era that scoop jackson and sam nunn on defense were good for seven or eight votes in a tight vote anytime. we knew that dick lugar on foreign policy was good for six or seven votes, they were leaders in their area. all of you on this committee know who the half a dozen leaders are. i don't know who they are, but you know. and certainly the ranking member and chairman know who they are. and there's -- and a coalition of those can be put together. but the key is not do you have the leadership. does the little leadership group agree on the goal they want to reach? if they don't agree on the goal, no quantity of leadership is going to make any difference. >> all right, thank you. second question deals with you know, did all this work in '86, ink dry on the legislation for all those years and we started changing it. a whole lot over time. did you ever think at the time that we'd