reassure them and essay don't worry we have had a lot of crazy presidents in modern history and lyndon johnston-- lyndon johnson's aides used to argue about whether he was manic-depressive or clinically paranoid. jfk and nixon took psychotropic drugs and so yes, presidents at the very moment where they should feel affirmed and confident that the american public has put them in the seat of power often they are gremlins-- their insecurities come out instead and so nixon was walking the halls talking to the paintings and doing a lot of crazy things and so watergate. so, yes, we have survived a lot of crazy presidents already, so of course we will survive one more. host: do you think donald trump can quote unquote drain the swamp or change washington culture? guest: i think it's up in the air. you know, he has a-- has appointed a lot of people sort of that from the swamp, but it remains to be seen whether lied to kennedy, you know, they appointed joe kennedy to the securities and exchange commission because he was a fox in the hen house. he knew because he had broken the rules himself how to catch