he said the one thing about lynn don johnson was afraid to fail. thing most important to lyndon was not to be like daddy. his father had been a politician for awhile a successful politician and had failed, lost the ranch and the family was plunged no to the only bankruptcy but the laughing stock of their town. johnson when he was senator majority leader. bobby baker is his man who counted votes with him. baker said i learned never to let him fail on the own. never. c-span: in your acknowledgment, you say two people who have not talked to you one bobby baker and the other bill moyers. why not how hard have you worked to get them to talk to you? >> guest: bobby i made repeated efforts to get him to talk to me. doesn't think much of my books. as for mr. moyers, he does say compliment i are things about my books. he said great things about my books. but he simply said he doesn't want to talk to me far long time it was said he was going to his own book on lynn don johnson who is perfectly understandable. i don't think he said it for many years. he simpl