george if you have rebuttal you have 2 minutes >> i'd like to make two points for the record again lynn fong from public works appeared at the hearing and this is the hearing officers finding at&t, in fact, compiled with the technical requirements of the order. the other point is the proposed location is in the public right-of-way and at&t has a right to install in those locations and the city of san francisco revokes in their report the utility boxes are a part of the city >> mr. quan. >> thank you, john quan from the department of public works. the department acknowledges that at&t has absolutely right to place their boxes in a public right-of-way, however, the city can dedicate time and manner for the displacement of the facilities that's why we permit those and with a preprilt permit before we issue american people evaluation permit. one of the things that the public members pointed out was a tree identified at this location. i did evaluate the pamper that was submitted there were several pictures of the location one showed a vehicle in front of the proposed site and another the proposed