i sat down with lynn gardner. lynn was responsible for responding to that and came to me, and i wrote and we wrote together, but i remember writing a draft in which of the letter to the jewish group, whichever jewish group it was, in which i tried to suck out of the goals and timetables it's worst evils by saying we shouldn't be in this and that and this. that letter went off. i don't have a copy of it. you probably do. but i do remember lynn and i reading it, and i remember also lynn was more inclined to the left at that point than i was. i was trying to pull back. i asked about art fletcher's role. the more, of course, we spread affirmative action, the more art was major expoexpostor of our policy. he was the face of the policy. interesting enough, arnie weber, who was george's protege from business school at chicago, was someone i tended to clash with constant constantly, was strongly opposed to the affirmative action goals and timetables. he adopted views which i think now were correct. but it was a bit chaotic