joining our discussion now liz swisher and lynn brooks. have testified that, yeah, you know, i drank. i got drunk a lot. i don't do anything like that now. that was my, you know, teenage years and my college years and then gone back to his i think good talking point that, look, i did all my homework. i got all my work done so how bad could it be, but he seemed to try to do everything he could to minimize the drinking. >> that's what was surprising to me is that i drank too much in college, i think a lot of kids drink too much in college, but if you're able to get, you know, get your work done and you move on with your life and you don't drink as much, but we all drank a fair amount and we made some stupid choices. that would have been totally fine if he had said that, i wouldn't be here today. >> and, lynn, let's talk about deborah ramirez, you both were roommates and friendly with deborah ramirez and her story of brett kavanaugh being really incoherently drunk and dropping his pants and aggressively thrusting himself in her face, and she

lynne brookes thank you very much. now, that's relevant, that's what happens when you paint a picture of yourself. these senators weren't going to be able to poke holes in it, why? no time, no depth. for some of them, no inclination, but how many lynne brookes are out there. you make a decision. wait a minute, i now the we were talking about attempted assault, drinking. i'm talking about the truth. i'm in the staying it's wrong he drank. i'm saying, if he's going to be the ultimate judge of truth in our society, a supreme court justice, and at 53 years old, he's going to lie about what he did when he was 15, what else will he lie about? that's why it's a relative assessment. that's why watching a man today who is a very skilled litigator, litigating your way through a question is different than an answering a question about it. take my word for it, i'm an arguer and litigator by trade. we're going to take you through what was heard today, all right? presenting both sides. both had painful and powerful cases. what were

joining our discussion now, liz swisher and lynne brookes.e friends of kavanaugh's in college and roommates with deborah ramirez, who has accused brett kavanaugh of sexual aggressiveness, i guess we could call it. liz swisher, your reaction to what you heard brett kavanaugh say under oath about his drinking? >> i was appalled. he was clearly lying, and it was incredibly disturbing to see somebody perjuring themselves who is in line to be a supreme court justice. >> lynne brookes, your reaction to what you heard? >> i agree. the reason that i decided to speak out was when he gave the "fox news" interview, and as i said in "the washington post", tried to paint himself as a choir boy where all he did was study and play sports and every once in a while he would have a beer. that's simply not consistent with the brett kavanaugh that i knew in college. >> i mean, liz, he could have testified that, yeah, you know, i drank, i got drunk a lot. i don't do anything like that now. that was my, you know, teenage years and my college years, and then gone b

. >> lynne brookes, your reaction to what you heard? >> i agree.k out was when he gave the "fox news" interview, and as i said in "the washington post", tried to paint himself as a choir boy where all he did was study and play sports and every once in a while he would have a beer. that's simply not consistent with the brett kavanaugh that i knew in college. >> i mean, liz, he could have testified that, yeah, you know, i drank, i got drunk a lot. i don't do anything like that now. that was my, you know, teenage years and my college years, and then gone back to his, i think, good talking point that, look, i the all of my homework, i got all of my work done, so how bad could it be. but he seemed to try to do everything he could to minimize the drinking. >> right. that's what was surprising to me, is that i drank too much in college, i think a lot of kids drink too much in college. but if you are able to get, you know, get your work done and you move on with your life and you don't drink as much, we all drink a fair amount and we made some stupid choic

lynn brooks, a college classmate, set the picture kavanaugh is trying to paint doesn't match her memories of him. and iic quote, he's trying to paint himself as some kind of choirboy. you can't lie to way onto the supreme court. and with thatr statement out,, he's gone tooay far. it's about the integrity of the institution, end quote. ultimately, members and ladies and gentlemen, i really thinknk that's the point. we're here to decide whether to evaluatetl this nominee to the most is to just court in our country. it's about the integrity of that institution, and the integrity of thisun institution. the entire country is watching how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their mind, and seriously reflects on why we're here. we are here for one reason, to determine whether judge kavanaugh should be elevated to one of the most powerful positions in our country. this is not a trial of dr. ford. it's a job interview for judge kavanaugh. is brett kavanaugh who we want on the most i prestigious courtn our country? is he the best we can do quite thank you,

. >> lynne brookes is her name. she went to yale with kavanaugh. she was also a roommate of debbie ramirez, a woman who accuses himself of exposing himself to her. brooks says she's disappointed in kavanaugh's hearing and accuses the judge of evading questions about his excessive drinking. >> post the hearing there are a lot of people at yale who are exchanging notes and emails and text messages about how disappointed we are that brett stood up there and lied about who he was and his behavior in college. it's not consistent at all with the brett that i knew. and if he's going to lie about the little things, what about the big things? that's the big question that i have. >> brooks says she never felt unsafe around kavanaugh but accuses him of misrepresenting who he was in college. meanwhile, overnight a jesuit publication withdrew its endorsement of kavanaugh. the decision by "america" magazine came after kavanaugh's testimony thursday. kavanaugh mentioned several times during the hearing that he attended a jesuit high school. >>> and coming up, mor

lynn brooks, a college classmate, said the picture kavanaugh is trying to paint doesn't match her memories of him and i quote, he's trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy. you can't lie your way on to the supreme court. and with that statement out, he has gone too far. it's about the integrity of the institution, end quote. ultimately, members and ladies and gentlemen, i really think that's the point. we're here to decide whether to evaluate this nominee to the most prestigious court in our country. it's about the integrity of that institution and the integrity of this institution. the entire country is watching how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their mind and seriously reflects on why we are here. we are here for one reason, to determine whether judge kavanaugh should be elevated to one of the most powerful positions in our country. this is not a trial of dr. ford. it's a job interview for judge kavanaugh. is brett kavanaugh who we want on the most prestigious court in our country? is he the best we can do? thank you, mr. chairman

lynn brooks who said she didn't want to come forward, she is a republican, mr. chairman. she did not want to come forward, but last night after listening to his testimony was so offended by his lies that this is what his friend from yale, a registered republican said. there is no doubt in my mind that while at yale he was a big partier. often drank to excess. there had to be a number of nights he does not remember. in fact, i was witness to the night he got tapped into his fraternity and was stumbling drunk and was in a ridiculous saying really dumb things. i can almost guarantee that there is no way he remembers that night. this is a registered republican who didn't want to come forward until he heard the lies of judge kavanaugh. he said in an interview there were multiple e-mails and texts circling moosz classmates about how kavanaugh was lying to the senate judiciary committee in his testimony. that's from a republican who didn't want to come forward until witnessed the lies. what three other people dr. ford indicated were present last night. he told us as his exonerat

chairman, lynn brooks who said she did not want to come forward, another friend from yale and showing this is not partisan, she is a republican, mr. chairman, she did not want to come forward but last night after listening to his testimony was so offended by his lies that this is what his friend from yale, a registered republican said. there is no doubt in my mind that while at yale, he was a big partier, often drink to excess, and there had to be a number of nights he does not remember. in fact, i was witness to the night he got tapped into his fraternity and was stumbling drunk and he was in a ridiculous saying really dumb things. i could almost guarantee that there was no way that he remembers that night. this is a registered republican who did not want to come forward until he heard the lies of judge kavanaugh. brooks said last night in an interview that there were multiple emails and texts circling amongst her classmates about how kavanaugh was "lying to the senate judiciary committee in his testimony." that's from a republican who did not want to come forward until she witness t

lynn brooks, right now another person from that list you just heard senator feinstein giving, liz swishere-time roommate of debbie ramirez. thank you for taking the opportunity. i know this isn't what you've been dying to do with your life, but i'm glad you recognize how much it matters right now. >> thank you for having me, chris. >> you heard me talking to your friend lynn last night, and her feelings that she's a republican, she believes in kavanaugh's pedigree as a jurist but she heard him say things under oath she knows not to be true. do you share her opinion? >> i do. i absolutely share her opinion. >> how so? what do you know about brett kavanaugh that he was not truthful about in the hearing? >> i've known brett since the beginning freshman year. there's no problem with drinking beer in college. the problem is lying about it. he drank heavily. he was a partier. he liked to do beer bongs. he was a sloppy drunk. he was more interested in impressing the boys than he was in impressing the girls. i never saw him be sexually aggressive but he was sloppy drunk. >> so in terms of the all

lynn brooks, a college classmate, said the picture kavanaugh is trying to paint doesn't match her memories of him. and i quote, he's trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy. you can't lie your way onto the supreme court. and with that statement out, he's gone too far. it's about the integrity of the institution, end quote. ultimately, members and ladies and gentlemen, i really think that's the point. we're here to decide whether to evaluate this nominee to the most prestigious court in our country. it's about the integrity of that institution and the integrity of this institution. the entire country is watching how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their mind, and seriously reflects on why we are here. we are here for one reason -- to determine whether judge kavanaugh should be elevated to one of the most powerful positions in our country. this is not a trial of dr. ford. it's a job interview for judge kavanaugh. is brett kavanaugh who we want on the most prestigious court in our country? is he the best we can do? thank you, mr. chairma

chairman, lynn brooks, who said she did not want to come forward, another friend from yale and showing this is not partisan, she is a republican, mr. chairman, she did want to come forward but last night after listening to his testimony was so offended by his lies that this is what his friend from yale, a registered republican said. there is no doubt in my mind that while at yale he was a big partier. often drank to excess and there has to be a number of night he is does not remember. in fact, i was witness to the night he got tapped into his fraternity and was stumbling drunk and he was in a ridiculous saying really dumb things and i can almost guarantee that there is no way he remembers that night. >> so congresswoman, you know the politics, you're right there n there on a daily basis on the house. but are they going to be forced to -- i don't know what the process is, not just to suboena them, to talk to them, what if some of these people don't want to come forward? >> they can subpoena them. and what is -- this is such an important appointment that has -- in some ways it's the most

none of us have talked to or questioned james roach, lynn brooks, liz swisher, tom cane, or chris dudley. not one senator, as far as i know, has had the opportunity to or question deborah ramirez or julie swetnick. my colleagues are right that we should not rush to judgment, and it's not fair to assume judge kavanaugh is guilty without gathering the information. but it's equally unfair to have heard from a credible, poised, and brave witness and simply ignore what we heard and move forward immediately. i don't know deborah ramirez. i don't know whether her allegations are credible. i don't know julie swetnick. i don't know whether her allegations are credible. but i do know this -- dr. ford provided credible, powerful testimony that deserves to be considered and not dismissed as a partisan smear campaign which it was not. in my opening statement yesterday, i talked about the differences between me too and the year of the woman. and i highlighted the seriousness of sexual assault and harassment. i started out by saying, i hoped we would do better and show women that our country, our commi

chairman, lynn brooks who said that she did not want to come forward and another friend from yale, and showing that it is not partisan, she is a republican, mr. chairman, and she did not want to come forward, but last night after listening to his testimony was so offended by his lies that this is what his friend from yale, a registered republican said, there is no doubt in my mind that while at yale he was a big partier, often drank to excess and there a had to be a number of nights that he does not remember. in fact, i was witness tonight that he got tapped into the fraternity and was stumbling drunk, and he was in a ridiculous state saying dumb thing, and i can almost guarantee that there is no way that he remembers that night. this is a registered republican who did not want to come forward until he heard the lies of judge kavanaugh. brooks said last night in an interview that are there were multiple e-mails and texts circling among the classmates about how kav naur was, quote, lying to the senate judiciary commit too tee in his testimony. that is is from the republican who did not

elizabeth swisher and lynne lyne brookes say that kavanaugh's testimony mischaracterized his drinkingearing. >> i never blacked out. that's the allegation and that is wrong. >> i feel that he's perjuried himself and that's extremely problematic. >> a lot of people drink in high school and college. what i'm taking issue is the mischaracterization and the misrepresentation. >> if he's going to lie about the little things what about the big things? >> reporter: they're speaking out about the kavanaugh they say they knew back then. >> he hung with the varsity basketball crowd. he definitely ran with that crowd and, you know, drank hard with them. >> reporter: dr. elizabeth swisher seen here with judge kavanaugh says he was smart and friendly, but she says he could become rowdy when drinking. he slurred his words. >> he got loud. he slurred his words. he liked to play drinking games. >> reporter: lynne brookes painting a similar portrait of kavanaugh. >> new pledges were getting tapped in to the fraternity and brett was getting tapped in and he was incredibly drunk in a ridiculous outfit.

lynn brooks, a college classmate, said the picture kavanaugh is trying to paint doesn't match her memories of him and i quote, he's trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy. you can't lie your way on to the supreme court and with that statement out he's gone too far. it's about the integrity of the institution, end quote. ultimately members and ladies and gentlemen, i really think that's the point. we're here to decide whether to evaluate this nominee to the most prestigious court in our country. it's about the integrity of that institution and the integrity of this institution the entire country is watching how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their mind and seriously reflects on why we are here. we are here for one reason, to determine whether judge kavanaugh should be elevated to one of the most powerful positions in our country. this is not a trial of dr. ford. it's a job interview for judge kavanaugh. is brett kavanaugh who we want on the most prestigious court in our country? is he the best we can do? thank you, mr. chairman. >> i

lynn brooks, a college classmate, said the picture kavanaugh is trying to paint doesn't match her memories of him. and i quote, he's trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy. you can't lie your way on to the supreme court. and with that statement out, he's gone too far. it's about the integrity of the institution, end quote. ultimately, members and ladies and gentlemen, i really think that's the point. we're here to decide whether to evaluate this nominee to the most prestigious court in our country. it's about the integrity of that institution and the integrity of this institution. the entire country is watching how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their mind, and seriously reflects on why we are here. country.re for one of the mos this is not a trial of dr. ford. it's a job interview for judge kavanaugh. is brett kavanaugh who we want on the most prestigious court in our country? is he the best we can do? thank you, mr. chairman. >> i'm sorry you brought up about the unsubstantiated allegations of other people because we're here for t

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lynn brooks, a college classmate, said the picture kavanaugh is trying to paint doesn't match her memories of him. and i quote, he's trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy. you can't lie your way onto the supreme court. and with that statement out, he's gone too far. it's about the integrity of the institution, end quote. ultimately, members and ladies and gentlemen, i really think that's the point. we're here to decide whether to evaluate this nominee to the most prestigious court in our country. it's about the integrity of that institution, the integrity of this institution. the entire country is watching how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their mind, and seriously reflects on why we are here. we are here for one reason, to determine whether judge kavanaugh should be elevated to one of the most powerful positions in our country. this is not a trial of dr. ford. it's a job interview for judge kavanaugh. is brett kavanaugh who we want on the most prestigious court in our country? is he the best we can do? thank you, mr. chairman. >>

here is his classmate at yale, her name is lynn brooks.erization of himself in college. please take a listen. >> i watched the whole hearing. a number of my yale colleagues and i were extremely disappointed in brett kavanaugh's characterization of himself and the way that he evaded his excessive drinking questions. there is no doubt in my mind that while at yale, he was a big partier, often drank to excess, and there had to be a number of nights where he does not remember. >> carrie, if brett kavanaugh was not honest about his drinking, if that is not corroborated by people who knew him, who went to school with him, would that put doubt in your mind about veracity of his other claims. >> we have dozens and dozens and dozens of people who have signed letters attesting to his good character, the fact he's a patriot, that he loves his country, the fact that lynne is projecting and saying he may have blacked out, how does she know. can i say something? when people say -- the word beli belief, the facts. when i see women dressed up as netflix h

lynn brooks, a college classmate, said the picture kavanaugh is trying to paint doesn't match her memories of him, and i quote, he's trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy. you can't lie your way on to the supreme court, and with that statement out, he's gone too far. it's about the integrity of the institution, end quote. ultimately, members and ladies and gentlemen, i really think that's the point. we're here to decide whether to evaluate this nominee to the most prestigious court in our country. it's about the integrity of that institution and the integrity of this institution. the entire country is watching how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their mind and seriously reflects on why we are here. we are here for one reason, to determine whether judge kavanaugh should be elevated to one of the most powerful positions in our country. this is not a trial of dr. ford, it's a job interview for judge kavanaugh. is brett kavanaugh who we want on the most prestigious court in our country? is he the best we can do? thank you, mr. chairman.

none of us have talked to or questioned james roach lynn brooks, liz swisher, tom cain, or chris dudleyator as far as i know has had the opportunity from -- opportunity to or questioned deborah ramirez or julie swetnick. my colleagues are right that we should not rush to judgment. and it is not fair to assume judge kavanaugh is guilty without gathering the information. but it's equally unfair to have heard from a credible, poised and brave witness and simply ignore what we heard and move forward immediately. i don'tdeborah ramirez i don't w whether her allegations are credible. i don't know judy swetnick. i don't know whether her -- whether her allegations are credible. but i do know this -- dr. ford provided credible, powerful testimony that deserves to be considered and not dismissed as a partisan smear campaign which it was not. in my opening statement yesterday, i talked about the differences between me too and the year of the the woman. and i highlighted the seriousness of sexual assault and harassment. they started out by saying, i hoped we would do better and show women that our

none of us have talked to or questioned lynn brooks, liz swisher, or chris dudley.i know, have had the opportunity to question deborah ramirez or julie swetnick. my colleagues all right. we should not rush to judgment, and it's not fair to assume judge kavanaugh is guilty without gathering the information, but it's equally unfair to have heard from a credible, poise, and a brave witness and simply ignore what we heard and move forward immediately. i don't know deborah ramirez. i don't know whether her allegations are credible. i don't know julie swetnick. i don't know whether her allegations are credible. but i do you know this. it dr. ford provided credible, powerful testimony that deserves to be considered and not dismissed as a partisan smear campaign, which it was not. in my opening statement yesterday, i talked about the differences between the #metoo and "the year of the woman." i highlighted the differences. sexual assault and harassment. i started out by saying i hoped we would do better and show women that our country, our committee has in fact changed. thi

lynn brooks, a college classmate said "the picture kavanaugh is trying to paint it doesn't match heri quote, "he's trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy. you can't lie your way onto the supreme court," and with that statement, he has gone too far. it is about the integrity of the institution." ultimately, members and ladies and gentlemen, i really think that's the point. we are here to decide whether to evaluate this nominee to the most prestigious courts in our country. it's about the integrity of that institution and the integrity of this institution. the entire country is watching how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their minds, and seriously reflects on why we are here. we are here for one reason, to determine whether judge kavanaugh should be elevated to one of the most powerful positions in our country. this is not a trial of dr. ford. it is a job interview for judge kavanaugh. is brett kavanaugh who we want on the most prestigious court in our country? is he the best we can do? thank you, mr. chairman. >> i'm sorry you

lynn brooks, a college classmate said that the picture kavanaugh is trying to paint doesn't her memoriesquote, he is trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy. you can't lie your way on to the supreme court, and with that statement out, he has gone too far. it is about the integrity of the institution, end quote. ultimately members and ladies and gentlemen, i really think that's the point. we're here to decide whether to evaluate this nominee to the most prestigious court in our country. it is about the integrity of that institution and the integrity of this institution. the entire country is watching how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their mind and seriously reflects on why we are here. we are here for one reason, to determine whether judge kavanaugh should be elevated to one of the most powerful positions in our country. this is not a trial of dr. ford. it's a job interview for judge kavanaugh. is brett kavanaugh, who we want on the most prestigious court in our country. is the best we can do? thank you, mr. chairman. >> yeah. i'm

lynn brooks who said she did not want to come forward, another friend from yale and showing this is not partisan, she is a republican, mr. chairman. she did not want to come forward but last night after listening to his testimony, was so offended by his lies, that this is what his friend from yale said, there is no doubt in my mind while at yale he was a big partier and drank to excess and has to be a number of nights he doesn't remember. in fact, he got tapped into his fraternity and was stumbling drunk and was in a ridiculous saying really dumb things and i could almost guarantee that there is no way that he remembers that night. this is a registered republican who did not want to come forward until she heard the lies of judge kavanaugh. she said there were multiple emails and text sclling about how cavanaugh was lying to the senate judiciary committee in his testimony. that's from a republican who didn't want to come forward until she witnessed those lies. judge kavanaugh's testimony also miss character ises what three other people indicated. he told us as his exonerating evidence me

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lynn brooks, a college classmate, said the picture that brett kavanaugh is trying to paint does not match, he has gone too far. it is about the integrity of the institution. ultimately, members and ladies and gentlemen, i really think that is the point. we are here to decide whether to evaluate this nominee to the most prestigious court in our country. it is about the integrity of that institution and the integrity of this institution. the entire country is watching. how we handle these allegations. i hope the majority changes their tactics, opens their mind and seriously reflect on why we are here. we are here for one reason— to determine whetherjudge kavanaugh should be elevated to one of the most powerful positions in our country. this is not a trial, it isa our country. this is not a trial, it is a job interview forjudge kavanaugh. it is brett kavanaugh who we want on the most prestigious court on this country? is he the best we can do? thank you. you brought up the unsubstantiated allegations of other people, but we are here for the sole purpose of listening to doctor ford and we wil

brooks whon, lynn said she did not want to come forward, another friend from yale, she is a republican, she did not want to come forward, but last night after hearing his testimony, she was so offended by his lies, this is id,t his friend from yale sa there is no doubt in my mind he was a big party year, often drink to excess, and there have to be a number of nights he does not remember. i was a witness the night he was in his fraternity and someone drunk.g he was ridiculous and saying dumb things. i can say there is no way he remember that night. this is a registered republican who did not want to become forward until he heard the lies of judge kavanaugh. brooks said there were multiple emails and texts circling among her classmates about how kavanaugh was lying to the senate judiciary committee in his testimony. that was from a republican who did not want to come forward until she witnessed those lines. judge kavanaugh mischaracterizes three other people dr. ford -- he told us as his exonerating evidence, kept mentioning three names over and over again. he said four people who knew d

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