lz, is the new, i don't know, new chinese?, everyone wanted their kids to learn japanese and they didn't need that in the end. and then they said chinese. maybe now it's code. >> absolutely not. i'm actually offended by that very question. and i tell you why. you know, we're getting so close to the point at which college is becoming a job-creating factory and we're forgetting about the liberal arts aspect and the purpose is also to be an educated person. when i think of languages such as french and italian and spanish, i'm thinking of languages that also incorporate cuisine and history and people. an opportunity to become more global, if you will. when i think of code, i think of technical school, which is fantastic, if your purpose is to get a job. but it doesn't really help you with the other aspects of what i think is important of having a liberal arts education. >> i tell you, i think code is something that should be more interwoven in the reb public education system, and maybe it should be like reading, writing, arithmeti

lz. >> newt's a jerk. ok? he is a jerk. i'm just cutting straight to the chase. >> you're going to lay it out. >> well, you know, we were all wondering, right, if the benevolent newt we saw the last two debates had really been a changed newt, the newt that we hated was the one who said that if you were under 18 and pregnant, you were not eligible to receive any sort of welfare or assistance. we were wondering if that heartless newt from the '90s was still here. well, yes, yes, he is. he is still here. he doesn't like poor people. and of the 10 poorest states in the country, they also happen to be red. so he's not talking about just people in the hood, if you will. he's talking about the poor that are in the poorest regions of mississippi and alabamas as well. if you're a republican, he is talking about your kids too. >> lz, he is surging in the polls. >> i know. it's idiotic, right? it's absolutely crazy. i don't understand how we got to this point, right, where the republicans had three years to find someone that they can

did you beat lz up, too. >> i'm earning a reputation, don.'m scaring them off with my sharp intellect. can't be my hustles. >> reporter: do you expect herman cain supporters to jump to michele bachmann as she said? >> some. there are two polls out, des moines register and public policy polling. both say about 40% of herman cain supporters say newt gingrich as their second choice. we should stop and marvel at that absurd di. those whory tracted to the i ultimate outsider l will for ultimate insider herman cain. >> if you think about it, the thing that drove herman cain out of the race were allegations of infidelity and his shenanigans with women and inning in has a laundry list of those in his past. >> right. so move to the guy with the next stemt stellar character record. it is absurd that newt gingrich is the second choice. i have to say, one thing herman cain was able to foster . one reputation or perception he was able to foster is that of conservative purity. that is something michele bachmann has been able to do as well. she has been abl

joining us are will cain and lz granderson. thanks for being with us. so let's start with the sdaxal dead heat, and we have newt gingrich and others there tied in the new polling. let me start with you, lz. what do you think about who might win iowa? >> well, i think that the republican party is in a bit of a pickle, if you will, because it seems as if ron paul doesn't win in iowa, he at least will finish in the top three, which presents a candidate that is not someone who is going to be electable in the general election. so the worst-case scenario, i would think at this point, would be for ron paul to come out ahead and win this. and then set the tone in rhode island to have a totally incredible and i'm sure frustrating conversation for the republican party. >> let's talk about, will cain, about a possible ron paul win. what impact on the rest of the race? >> i don't think whoever wins iowa, ron paul or rick santorum or michele bachmann or whoever, matters all that much. i think that predicting the results of iowa is turning out to be a lot like being

potential contenders essentially auditioned for the murdoch primary for rupert murdoch and roger a lz over at fox news by making themselves fox news paid contributors. you had newt gingrich and rick santorum and mike huckabee and sarah palin all employed by fox news and rupert murdoch as they very publicly weighed presidential runs. now that the primary season sunder way and a few of those folks did decide to get into the race, is it possible to tell who fox news is for? and more specifically right now who are they for between newt gingrich and mitt romney? because that's who it seems to be boiling down to at least right now. this is not just who does the conservative media support broadly. this is a specific thing. i mean, there are other conservatives out there, pundits and columnists and former officials and opinion leaders who are not affiliated with fox news. but it's worth drawing a distinction because of the media power that rupert media has with the fox news channel. i mean, for example, right now you have a whole bunch of conservative pundits and columnists and former officia