lz, right, it's about this.into the fountain while texting and they threatened to sue the mall. then there was a fan who threw a beer, remember that, at ron artest igniting what's known as the basket brawl. a number of these things. when is it going to stop in lz -- >> i do think americans -- . >> go ahead, wendy? >> americans play the victim card all the time because we use attorneys. we can compromise, we can get along. >> my thanks to lz and dr. wendy. >>> a 60-year-old cleveland man brutally assaulted and it's all caught on tape. but let me warn you, this video may be disturbing for some people to see. police have identified one of the suspects. now they need help in tracking down another one. gregory perry was leaving a convenience store thursday night when he was attacked. he was punched and knocked to the ground but it didn't end there. >> the suspect, steven anderson, who we have identified, goes through his pockets and takes the $40 that mr. perry had, and then kicks him a second time, and then as he's

wendy walsh is back to keep lz and me in line. -- >> that's right. >> are you advocating violence here? >> absolutely not. the theme that tripped me out about that video was that people started going off after he punched her. they should have been going off when she was spitting on him, when she was going off on him for like three minutes. i watched a clip for three minutes before he punched her. he's being berated by this woman and people didn't say anything. he punched her and they lose their minds. it should have happened sooner. >> i disagree. they should have been sitting in their seats like good passengers. that bus driver should have been behaving like an employee -- >> wendy, wendy -- >> what, what? >> i want you to listen to this. listen. play "the view" for me. play this click from "the view". >> i bet you when he gets back on that bus, nobody's going to do that to him anymore. nobody's going to get in his face. you cannot do that. >> women have this idea that you can hit and punch on a man and he's not going to hit you

. >>> lz and will are back.y during the debate, binders full of women. lz, why is this a talking point for the left? >> well, first of all, it's just an offensive way to talk about half the country. talk about employees, talk about future leaders, binders full of women. and then we find out he lied again, that this scenario he painted during the debate did not happen at all. he was just trying to score points. so the reason why its such a talking point is because, one, he characterized women in such a demeaning way and then, two, he lied about it on top of it. >> okay. so, listen, i don't disagree with anything you said. i just wonder why everybody single word that comes out of someone's mouth, you say, my gosh, look what he said. when president obama said you didn't build that, the people on the left said you know what he meant. he was talking about this. if mitt romney is talking about reaching out to women and said, i asked for binders full of women or women's names or i needed -- >> they brought him binders

ana navarro and lz granderson. lz, i'm going to start with you first. go. >> okay. well, i think you nailed it, right? she's mattering because she said something ridiculous and we're jumping all over it. she's a publicity hound. that's what they do and she's very good at it. i don't know if her book sales were down or if she was tired of everyone talking about donald trump. she said it because she knew it would be offensive and we'd be talking about it now. it is what it is. what we can't do is allow these people to dictate the political conversation. let them stay in their little box of publicity but not bleed into what we need to talk about in terms of the election. >> ana, as far as ann coulter, what do you say? >> i agree a lot with what lz has just said. as you all know, don, that's not my brand of politics. and i don't think that she is a political pundit. i think she's an entertainer. i think she has another niche. we see outrageous things going on from, for example, bill maher. and they're not shaping the political discourse. they've got a niche. they're ent

did he do his job, lz? >> i definitely think he did his job, because he put more fight back on the ticket. and besides just rolling his eyes and the laughter, and i thought there were moments he was rude, he introduced parts of the conversation that th president didn't do. he talked about the 47% and the flaws of ryan as a candidate. the fact that he was against the stimulus but asked for stimulus money. romney had that big foreign policy speech and said the president didn't sign any trade agreements. paul ryan voted in favor of a trade agreement that president obama signed. so these were some of the things that came out. >> so in other words, when -- the criticism of this guy, when you said, he was rude, i don't understand that. i don't understand he didn't talk about -- >> really? >> no. he didn't call someone a name, talk about their mother. that's kind of what people do when they're having an actual conversation. whether it's someone on the right or the left. mitt romney was very aggressive in the presi

is is lz wrong? >> what lz said is untrue. >> look at the tape. >> this isn't a debate. to play this game right now. he's talking about a debate from the republican primaries where romney was asked about fema and not privatizing it but handing it over to the states. he did give a non-answer where he endorsed the concept of federalism but never said he would take fema out of the federal realm. >> he doubled down on it this weekend, will. maybe you were out of the loop. but he doubled down on it. >> i don't think will's going to play that game, lz. >> i don't want to play the game either. but i think it is important that we understand what exactly both president candidates want to do in these situations. and romney has said that he wants to take the money and put it not only in the states but also open it up to privatizing it and the president is showing how important it is that the federal government has a hand in these type of crises. if you were joplin, missouri, talking about nearly $3 billion in damage. a state like missouri cannot handle a $3 billion hit like that. i

lz, let's stick with the ground game here.e we are talking about the imaginary scenarios for after disaster happens. what happens after, can people get to the polls? will the power be out? will there be blockage in the road? all of this. we don't know as it is pretty far to forecast out seven, eight, nine days from now to election day, but this is throwing a monkey wrench into the plans that not only the candidates have but also people going to the polls and voting. some people don't know what they are going to do because they are out of their homes. >> absolutely. you know, it is not really about seven or nine days ahead, some of the states that could be impacted later in the week are looking at early voting states, for example, maine already canceled early voting for monday. if you planning on voting not on next tuesday but some time during this week, power outages could impact your plans. and it may, if you were planning on voting earlier and you made plans to be out of town, you may be scrambling for an absentee ballot. th

i agree with lz. it was a bit of both. it was a lot of both. off, and mitt romney was very much on his game. you know, i don't remember many debates where it's hard to think of a memorable gaffe or a memorable knockout blow, and yet there was a very visible mark that was an undebatable victor of the debate, and it was mitt romney. he did it because for 90 sustained minutes, it was like he was debating a limp piece of spaghetti. >> yeah, it was like the chair. this is honest talk. let's talk about the job numbers. it could have come at a better time, and how big of a help is this below 8% jobless rate, do you think? i want to see what the republicans think about that? mitt romney can't say the unemployment rate is above 8%? >> absolutely it was a help, and on friday, just after the debate, and let me tell you, don, i am a republican, but when it comes to unemployment numbers i am an american first, i am not on the red or blue team, and i want our economy to strengthen and i want us to recover as a country and the smartest thing any political per

>> no. >> lz, go ahead. >> no. the question is getting browner as john said.ans cannot rely on white people to help them maintain their status of power. they also have to figure out a way in which they can, you know, attract or reattract latino voters, but also open up a conversation with the african-american voters and not just conceding to the democrats. i don't know why they do that. i know mitt romney has really avoided heavy urban areas in terms of his campaign. he talks about being a son of detroit. i think the dude showed up in detroit once. he has been in the suburbs, but hasn't been in detroit where the black people are. so they too need to address, how can they reach minorities, because they can't sustain the power relying only on white voters in a browning country. >> and john, the republicans don't seem to be doing that, becoming more conservative, in ways that turn off minority voters. >> that's right. it's become more conservative, and more white. this is a party that was the party of lincoln. it has a lot of pioneering advanc advances. the first

not saying mitt romney didn't look too hard. >> lz, thanks so much.the way, we did invite alex on the program. he had another commitment. i'm sure he'll be talking about this on cnn. read his op ed, cnn.com. >> read mine as well please. >> definitely so. we all the do. lz granderson, thanks so much. >> ann colter who is not well known for her delicate use of the english language is embroiled in controversy again. after monday night's face-off coulter took to twitter to share her feelings. she wrote, kboet quote, i highly approve of romney's decision to be kind and true to the retards. special olympian john franklin stevens wrote a heart felt open letter explaining why that word shut not be an insult. here's what he has to say. >> dear ann koucoulter, come on ms. coulter, you aren't dumb and you aren't shallow, so why are you constantly using a word like the "r" word as an insult? i am a 30-year-old man with down's syndrome who has struggled with the public perception that people with disability means i am dumb and shallow. i am not either of those thi

and i absolutely agree with lz, it was a bit of both. there was a lot of both.dent obama was way off and mitt romney was very much on his game. you know, i don't remember many debates where it's hard to think of a memorable gaffe or a memorable knockout blow, and yet there was a very visible mark of undebatable victor of this debate, which was mitt romney. he did it just because for 90 sustained minutes it was like he was debating a limp piece of spaghetti. >> it was like the chair from clint eastwood. but i want to go a little longer with this segment to talk more with these guys. this is some honest talk. let's talk about the job numbers, they couldn't have come at a better time with the president considering his performance the other night, how big of a help is this below 8% jobless rate, do you think? i'm going to start with anna to see what the republicans think about that. how big of a help? because mitt romney can no longer go, well, the unemployment rate is above 8%. >> absolutely it was a help. and it was a solid vote for president obama on friday, the

of the a's lz be back here against -- the a's will be back here against the tigers tomorrow.jeff bush, kron4 news. >> there were some celebrating with a bart train in a transbay tube which caused some fans to show up late. >> i was stuck for about 15 minutes. waited for the next train, 5-10 minutes because2x0pt was crowded. then they stopped opening the doors as well. so nobody could get downstairs on the platform at all. >> this was the scene about the 4th inning. quite a few people showing up late. game 5 is tomorrow where the a's have a chance to advance to the american league championship series. also with their backs against the wall, the giants won again today, beating the reds 8-3! the game was won thanks to an outpouring of offense as three giants players hit home runs. the giants and reds face off again tomorrow, deciding who will advance to the national league championship series and who will go home. gary will have much more on the giants and the a's coming up later in sports. >>> a big break today in the homicide investigation of a retired -- her body was discover

i have to say, do you think this will be old news by tuesday, lz? >> well, it's old news now.n sn lech nchlsn same and sarah palin and tina fey, i still watch the clips. >> in terms of having a more immediate impact and the way people view the debate and the way people view joe biden but not the debates or the future debates. >> i totally disagree. i know you didn't want to ask me this don, but you said it. we ussed to view debates through the prism of when they happened, our impressions and then the spin room afterwards and now we have the forever in the internet where you think it's impacted and you're kidding yourself if you don't think people view this as parody and they go with this. >> good or bad, guess who people are talking about? they're talking about joe biden. and they're people that thought he was a caricature of himself but i think that most people kind of think the way -- he offered the best defense of joe biden that i've heard. i want you to listen. >> the fact of the matter is, he dominated him. people can talk about joe biden but what i think people like abou

i talked to will cain and lz began sd granderson about it. the town hall format will be a better venue for president obama. i asked him why. >> because he'll be able to have the audience there to gauge. he'll be able to understand a little bit more about the energy level that he has. he'll be able to understand the way he answers the questions has a more immediate impact on the audience and perhaps the nation. >> it's like a performer. he can vibe off the audience. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. >> i totally but for a little bit different reason. i was reading a review of the 2008 town hall debate that senator john mccain had with barack obama, and here are the words they used to describe it. it was dispassionate. i don't know how high his bar is on getting up his energy. the town hall format lowers the bar. that confrontational aspect becomes more sensitive. people feel that, and i don't think they like head to head as much. it's more about connecting. >> that was tom brokaw's debate. back in 2008, right? he talked about that on doin

. >> i will go back to you, lz.a talked about craig few garkt the emergency management down in florida. are do you remember last time during isaac, got there faster than the prkt the president had to balance his duties. well aware what the optics are like in this situation? >> mitt romney got there early but left with criticism. he reportedly told a woman whose house was submerged under water to ga go back home and call 211. doesn't look as fess trying to to be compassionate but bring himself that would bring the nation a lot of comfort as we are trying to deal with this horrific storm. you are right, the president deserves to be criticized for that, in a campaign season, what you can't do is look as if you don't care about the people you'rer issing and not being on the ground early after the hurricane made an appearance he wasn't -- didn't care about the people as much as himself and his own political ambitions. >>, will the my thanks to lz granderson and of course, ana navarro. >>> i'm answering your questions on

do you think this is going to be old news by tuesday, lz? >> well it's old news now.snl' ed it's pretty much out of the news cycle. >> sarah palin and tina fey you can't get enough of that. i still watch the clips. >> i mean in terms of way people int view the debate. >> i totally disagree. i know you didn't want to ask me this, don. you said it just now. we used to view debates through the prism of when they happen. now we have this internet. you're kidding yourself if you don't think that parity doesn't impact how people view this. >> good or bad, guess who people are talking about. they are talking about joe biden. there are people who thought he was sort of a characterture of himself. listen. >> the fact of the matter is he dominated him. people can talk about joe biden, but what i think people like about him is he's authentic. the one thing about joe biden is you believed what he was telling you. the only thing we really now about mitt romney is unchanging is he wants to be president of the united states of america. >> the criticism of this guy, when you said he

so lz, what is so hard, do you think for undecided voters to make their mind over it?is the apathy that they feel towards the president. you're right, i mean, it can't be clearer in terms of the two men being different. if you're undecided at this point, the only thing i can think of is that you're waiting for the october jobs report just to see one last time if we truly are heading in the right direction. but you remember a few months ago when we were trying to figure out if we were better off today than four years ago, i looked at things like the jobs report numbers and how at this time four years ago, we had lost 500,000 jobs in this country. and now, we have created more than 100,000 jobs. >> okay. >> now, that may not sound like a lot, but that is a huge swring. and so when you look at that, i think it is pretty clear. >> so anna, the reason i talked about, the issues, the economy, taxes, education, on and on, because i'm trying to actually help these people, you know, the people who are undecided or committed make a choice here. because it seems to be pretty clea

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