m. luckey i of a parallel life of academia and government. right out of law school i worked at the department of treasury for a couple of years. the part of the enforcement issues of national security and intelligence and law-enforcement. i had a chance to help the undersecretary manage these programs to look get illicit financial activity and later after i had been outside, i went back and worked with the obama abided transition

m. luckey i of a parallel life of academia and government. right out of law school i worked at the department of treasury for a couple of years. the part of the enforcement issues of national security and intelligence and law-enforcement. i had a chance to help the undersecretary manage these programs to look get illicit financial activity and later after i had been outside, i went back and worked with the obama abided transition been working on immigration and border related issues. with a series of issues just his policies and regulatory policies i deal with the issues in the book in the preface deals with i was in a meeting when representatives talk about how they were responding to vh-1 and one virus and it struck me that they'd make these decisions to help the agencies with their jobs but we don't talk about what does it mean for the country? >>host: here is the book. mariano-florentino cuellar professor of political science at stanford. >>guest: professor of law. >>host: at stanford. "governing security" is the name of the book. the hid