in h m p. bell marsh in london. but is this the latest example of what we're healing, korean exposing, were private surveillance for a decade. joining me now from reykjavik in iceland is where helix editor in chief christian robinson. christian, thanks so much for coming on. i'll get to whether i should throw my phone away in a 2nd and to your jail, co founder julian assange in a moment. but what do you make of all these journalists suddenly talking about and a so group, when, when you, when you were doing this, i don't know a decade ago, was it? yeah, i mean, we did to point out the seriousness of this business to 10 years ago. almost 10 years, but i mean i'm not going to say i'm important story and now i mean they do have evidence of wrongdoing. however, i mean, for those who have been following the industry for years and years and know that actually on december 1st, 2011, we can publish internal documents exposing the incredible scope for these privatized spike companies and the servers they were offering to this