also hear is that and the tuskegee experiments they are alive this is live human experimentation m.k. ultra which the rockefeller foundation funded was the experiment of mind control by the cia on americans including military veterans so this stuff has happened before and you know now you hear the right talking about the deep state because of the raw you know russia gate which is another conspiracy that donald trump colluded with russia to get elected and nobody has produced any evidence of it so right wingers are like the deep state is conspiring against trump you know we on the left who are against american empire and permanent war we've been talking about the deep state for years the. state was what ginned up the whole fake a narrative of iraqi w m d's so is it any surprise that americans are so conspiratorial the quo which is really fantastic in terms of the past is not even the past and we haven't moved past that then there is this idea of original sin in america that you know how much is ok and kalman is there any ability to move past that politically because they are at. a junction w