m.p. angie britain and labor m.p. jim fitzpatrick thank you very much to both of you for joining us jim i'm going to start with the a lot of the police officers that we were speaking with we've got is a bit of and you've got these reforms going through but at the same time they're seeing the number of police. and police morales. i mean it's quite confusing time i think for police officers as to what's being expected. i understand that there may be slight consolation but given the battering the reputation of the police is hard over recent months the government had to take steps to shore up the reputation in terms of morale. of the police service. in my part of east london we've seen over one hundred fifty uniform staff gone the past two years. and crime which we've seen year on year zero for six years for the past two years has been an increase in crime last year of nine percent saw some parts of the country the cuts are being imposed are effect saying the safety of people on the streets what do you say to. the lowest