and it led for more people to pay out of pocket for m.r.i.'s and c.t. scans which then they just couldn't really afford so they stopped having them well this is part of the reason that the medical imaging of g.e. had its growth in two dimitry well that's i mean that's remarkable i mean is this how big the market is the either of this is the size of g.'s employee pool that they're affecting the demand side of the g. or i lost my train of thought you want to make what kind of response is that with this reminded me of what i thought i was how henry ford reportedly he used to pay his employees and off money. so that they could afford cars so that they could afford to be customers because he thought that that is what would be good for his business i think this is interesting because we're seeing the flip side of it where g.e.'s medical imaging business is shrinking because their customers can no longer afford this service because their health benefits don't cover anymore they have higher deductible i lucked out and work for a guy was a true capitalist i mean

rays there were no m.r.i. zero no heart bypasses people die earlier there it's unsustainable we don't have if we just combine social security medicare and our defense budget it grows exponentially in ten years it will comprise one hundred percent of what's taxed on people that's. there's not going to be room for anything else so it has to be reformed i wrote an article about this in the huffington post a couple of months ago when i got there there are democrats that responded to me like i was crazy like there's nothing wrong with medicare we can just keep funding it where's the money going to come from ok john do you i sense you are bristling there john you want to jump in there. well you know i rob is absolutely right if we do not do something to solve the entire problem everybody almost everybody takes a look at at these entitlement programs understands that if we don't do something they will take up one hundred percent of our budget and then we don't have money to pay for defense we don't have money to pay

if you are going to go get an m.r.i. for your shoulder, you may not go to the place your doctor recommends, you may shop around for an m.r.i. because at some places you can get it for $2,500 and another place, you could get one for $600, the same m.r.i. and unless you look around for it, you won't be able to find that deal or know about it because right now you don't care, because your insurance pays for it. if you are taking this money out of a health savings account, you will be shopping more. that's the power of transparency and cost. so looking around to see where you can save money to keep money in your health savings account and shopping for insurance that suits your needs, not the needs of the person next to you, but suits your needs, so you may choose a health insurance that is different from your neighbors that suits you just find. you may have chevrolet insurance or cadillac insurance, it's your choice. two things that would diminish the cost of medicine and not involve taking over everything by the government.

there are additional screening methods which include breast m.r.i. and ultrasound. >> we're running out of time but again we do want to let you know the open house is tomorrow evening. everyone is welcome. monika samtani and i will be will there for the ribbon cutting ceremonies on the new facility and it's also convenient which makes early detection even more simple. thank you for being here with us. >> thank you. >>> just about 5:53 now. our lives changed 11 years ago forever. coming up, more on services to honor the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. >>> plus, in today's hero's central, we recognize a group that's using education to help children break the cycle of poverty. >>> medication, hypnosis, shocking ads, there are a lot of options out there to help you stop smoking or pressure you to do so. but one thing is working. i'll tell you what it is coming up at 6:07. -- you're watching 9news now. >>> the district has the third highest poverty rate in the country, according to the latest census. and members of a local nonprofit are doing whate

a lot of those jobs were people running m.r.i.'s that didn't need to be run. we are going to retrain those people as community health workers, well paid professionals who essential job to broker health for people as they move through the system >> i think what you divide is a very important divide between primary intervention and secondary intervention. the money is in tertiary prevention, taking people with chronic illness. primary prevention absolutely critical, especially, first of all, the longer you look, also in things like vaccines, which we know save money, relatively short order. the fact of the matter is most primary intervention, whether it is obesity, exercise, -- public health measures best known the community and i don't want to say those two r-two separate -- because as the governor points out we are trying to bring them closer but we should also be clear those are not going to save a lot of money in short term at all. if you want to save money and improve quality in the five-year time horizon than the governor is under, you have to think about