ma dee be was alive while we were making the film.ily, the jailers, they're very much alive and i meat lot of people. and the challenge is to get away with what south africans were thinking what we were going to make and just make a raw, visceral, emotional and real story and be true to the men and women we're representing. >> rose: how do you see it as different from other movies that have been made? by just that fact? >> well, we were making a film about a relationship, about a marriage, about a love story. so as much as it's about apartheid it's about forgiveness and we had input from those men and women that it was about. i think naomi, for example, is the only actress who's played winnie to ever sit down with winnie and talk to her. we spent time with people talking to people and finding outboth sides -- >> rose: what did she learn from winnie? >> winnie gave her her blessing. she gave her her blessing to play the part so she's the right foreign play the part, she'd done her home work, done her research and so to play in the way