. >> maajid nawaz joined hizb al-tarir at 16.he goal was a world-wide muslim callet fact. >> for 13 years of my life i considered america my enemy. i worked diligently to overthroe governments, recruit army officers and instigate military coups. >> after being arrested and suffering a 4-year term in an egyptian prison he emerged a changed man. he is the founder of a think tame to build grassroot change for this culture. >> i talk now to maajid nawaz, journey from islamist extremist to a democratic awakening." he is the liberal democratic member for parliament. here. >> thank you. >> you came from a family that was nod fundamentalist. your mum was born and grew up in britain. you were, by all accounts, as normal a british child. you loved hip hop, but then something happened. >> as a teenager i experienced violent racisement. i mean hammer attacks, screwdriver attacks, machete attacks by a group known as 18. i had white friends growing up in essex, a county next door to london. they'd hold me back and force me to watch as they stu

we talk to maajid nawaz. his book is called "radical, my journey of out of extremism." and john miller. >> if radicalism can be summed up as an ideological narrative then the opposite of those four need happen. the grievances need to be addressed where the half-truths are exactly that. the other half of the story need to be filled in. the recruiters, there need to be character assassination on people like al-awlaki. he was arrested in the unitedÑi states soliciting prostitution. there needs to get out there. there needs to be a way to reconcile between brit british or european or american. >> rose: we conclude with a look at robert redford and his performance in a new movie called "all is lost" directed by j.c. candor. >> cinema is active these days. it's very entertaining. special effects and cutting and post work and so forth. but this was like almost going back to the time of silent movies. it allowed for an actor a real chance to be completely an actor. a lot of actors can think on screen and in a non-verbal way but he's actually able to communicate complex emotiona