mabee told us the grid information the d.o.e. puts out is confusing and dispersed. he spends hours trying to make sense of it all. >> mabee: there is a requirement that they report electric disturbance events. but the data from the department of energy is so bad. so, you know, i took it upon myself to do some data crunching. and what i found is that 38% of the electric disturbance events in the united states are due to physical attacks against the electric. >> whitaker: 38%? that's a lot. >> mabee: so, in the past decade, there have been over 700 physical attacks against the u.s. electric grid. >> whitaker: many are copy cats of the metcalf assault. in 2016, an eco terrorist in utah shot up a large transformer, triggering a blackout. he said he'd planned to hit five substations in one day to shut down the west coast. in 2020, the f.b.i. uncovered a white supremacist plot called "lights out" to simultaneously attack substations around the country. >> liz sherwood-randall: we're seeing planning to disable the delivery of power to the american people. >> whitaker: dr.

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