couldn't create a new operating system, a new mac os, so he is watching as people screw up the wonderful baby he helped create. >> and finally his return. >> can't create an operating system at a certain point, gill, then running apple, says, okay, i got to buy an operating system. and the bos; he looks at even microsoft. the question of adopting windows. that would have been weird. >> and then there's this amazing operating system that steve jobs had done at next with the colonel to it, which it exactly what aim -- apple needed, and eventually apple buys flexion to get the operating system ask then you buy next to get steve jobs, and i'm not sure it was woz0 who said it, but i think it was, gill, meet steve jobs, game over. steve jobs is back in the saddle again. >> in fact you tell the whole story. emilio tried to resist that, but he just found himself -- >> game over. >> -- being drawn in. the reality distortion field kicks in and then begins argue my one of the greatest decade of a company. >> totally stunning. he creates with the new operating system -- he brings bill gates, his dop

they couldn't even create an operating system, a new mac os, and so i think he's watching as people screwed up the wonderful baby he created. >> leads to the triumphant return. >> because they can't create an operating system, at a certain point, he says, okay, i have to buy an operating system, and the bos, and looks at microsoft with the question of adopting windows, and that would have been weird. [laughter] and then there's this amazing operating system that steve jobs had done it next with a kernel next to it, what apple needed, and eventually apple decides they have to buy next to get the operating system. you buy next, you buy next to get steve jobs, and as -- i'm not sure who said it, but gi will,, meet steve jobs and game over. >> yeah, you tell the story, and he tried to resist that, but found himself -- >> game over. >> being drawn in into the reality distortion field. >> wrea. >> and then begins maybe arguably one of the greatest decades that any corporation ever had. >> totally stung. first of all, he creates, you know, with the new operating system, brings bill gates, had fall

mac os has known digital handcuffs to restrict users the recent apple products the i things these have a known back spy features known digital and coughs the nastiest ever and unknown back door flash player which is gratis but not free software has surveillance feature and digital and coughs most sell your phones will transmit your location on remote command that's a surveillance feature and a back to work together thing to control use your credit card i mean what exactly what i that's why normally buy things only with cash. point is that free software because a corporation typically it's a corporation has control over the users through this program it uses that power to abuse them it puts it intentional malicious features how can we protect ourselves free software is the only known defense says richard stallman founded all of the free software and spotlight will be back shortly for a great stay with us continue to. looks like it's. lists please. welcome back to spotlight algor novel. just a reminder that my guest on the show today is richard stallman founder of the free software movem

and he calls up adobe saying you have to make your, you know, video editing software for the new mac os. .. came down and said microsoft, the people of adobe said, no, you have too small of a market share, and he never forgave adobe, which is why flash doesn't work on your i. a but the mark of a true genius of a company is not just when you think of things first, burt when you actually fail to think of something first, can you leapfrog, catch up? and so he realizes he had gotten aced out of the music business. that others were making cd burner trays and people were -- all of us were making -- downloading music from napster and making play lists and burning cds and you couldn't do that well on the apple. so he had to leapfrog and says we're going to make a perfect end-to-end thing with a juke box software, which is itunes, the store itself, and when they start making the ipod, he makes it so simple because it's integrated. you can put the complexity on the mac or the itune software so the device itself is not a complicated mp3 players. you could just look at it with the track wheel and i

couldn't create a new operating system, a new mac os, so he is watching as people screw up the wonderful baby he helped create. >> and finally his return. >> can't create an operating system at a certain point, gill, then running apple, says, okay, i got to buy an operating system. and the bos; he looks at even microsoft. the question of adopting windows. that would have been weird. >> and then there's this amazing operating system that steve jobs had done at next with the colonel to it, which it exactly what aim -- apple needed, and eventually apple buys flexion to get the operating system ask then you buy next to get steve jobs, and i'm not sure it was woz0 who said it, but i think it was, gill, meet steve jobs, game over. steve jobs is back in the saddle again. >> in fact you tell the whole story. emilio tried to resist that, but he just found himself -- >> game over. >> -- being drawn in. the reality distortion field kicks in and then begins argue my one of the greatest decade of a company. >> totally stunning. he creates with the new operating system -- he brings bill gates, his dop

they might have banking trojans for mac os and where another trojan for windows machines.we'll start to see more of that happening. at the end of the day, it's cybercrime. i don't care -- if i need a car and i'm a thief, i don't care what car you drive. i need a car. i'm going to steal a car. bringing it back, you know, there's not obviously security ramifications. you know, windows more -- windows 7 is more secure than xp, and we learn that as we go, but there's on element of cybercrime and the criminals go where the money is. >> just a comment to mark. some of us who have been involved in networks, ect., since the 1980s have always been scared by "conficker instances" and how to attack them without killing the network. okay. another question. do you think the worm creation might have been funded by a terrorist group like al-qaeda? >> no. i think because we've never seen that level of sophistication from terrorist organizations and also the way that it's been used, there's nothing to stop the authors of the conficker botnet from launching a massive cyberattack on april 1s

they might write banking trojans for mac os and write a different type for windows machines. we're going to start to see more of that happening. but at the end of the day, it's cyber crime. i don't care, if i need a car and i'm a car thief, i don't really care what kind of car you drive. i need the car, i'm going to go steal the car. so really kind of bringing it back there's not, obviously, security ramifications, you know, windows 7 being more secure than vista, than windows xp. kind of microsoft learning that as we go, but there's also that other element of cyber crime is the criminals are going to go where the money is. >> just a comment to mark. some of us who have been involved in networks, etc., since the 1980s have always been scared by, quote, conficker instances and how to attack them without killing the network. okay. um, another question. do you think the worm creation might have been funded by a terrorist group like al-qaeda? >> no. and i think because we've never seen that level of sophistication from terrorist organizations and, also, the the way that it's been

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