also, new chinese language and chinese service support in the mac os. the other thing is cloud services. they've got icloud built into the mac, messaging, the imessage capabilities coming over to the mac platform and boosting the mac app store. they try to see if apple can continue its momentum. >> getting ready for the spring selling season in real estate. but we've had mixed data on housing rates lately. what's the outlook for spring comes up? >> spring is going to come down to two things. it's going to come down to jobs, and it's going to come down to consumer sent the. we got housing starts up for january. we learned that today. but it was really on the back of multi-family housing starts. that means a surge in rentals. there's a demand there, that's where they're building. single family came down a bit, not a good sign. mortgage delinquencies dropped in q-4. that's a good sign. but we still have a huge pipeline of distressed properties. as we go into spring, it's going to come down to that consumer who's starting to feel a little better about the ec

. >> it's almost a ripoff of the mac-os.hat looks to me like the mission control you have and you swipe and get to the page where you have your applications at the bottom. >> i don't know. i actually give them credit for not adapting little icons on a black background like the iphone and android. they went a totally different way. what about people who need the desk top folders and files? for that they've got the real windows hiding underneath here. so this is regular windows. so if you have a pc, again no start menu. but if you have a regular pc, this is hiding here. that's the downside. now you have two different worlds to learn. this one and you've got the regular desktop at the same time. and you could have two monitors and have this on one and this on the other. but right now the old windows is still hiding just under the surface. >> is this going to alienate pc people? the commercials are you a pc and are you a mac. this looks more like a mac than pc. people like the familiarity of the start button. things we're accust

there's this operating system called mac os, like a unex environment. why do you think you have such a larger problem than the macintosh world appears to, aside from the fact they have 10% or 7% market share? anything else that's different? >> i think we can hang that on a number of things. market share being one that's been beaten to death. right? also the fact that there's not that much money in it. so if you think about the problem, it's a cybercrime problem. they don't do this for giggles, like we did back in college. i can make people's computers do funny thing. so they're about money. they can cast a really big net on windows. the apple guys are starting to see a little more of it. it's going to be their turn to have their windows xp service pack 2 moment. but it's one of those things, its hasn't hit yet. >> i remember this wonderful paper some years ago making your argument, it's a question of scale. then you can estimate what the percentages of market share they would have to reach to be at that point, and i think it was 19.7% market share. >> b

twitter built into the os as the default social network making ilt easier to share. a macthat and somewhat ominously named gate keeper lets you determine ahead of time what apps get to run on the system. built as a security features and the bias toward getting people to download from the mac app store. support for chinese language input and chinese services. this is the biggest market. and also interesting here the ipad, there's kind of conflicting reports on how much it's been halted sales in china because of all of these trademark concerns that we've been talking about this week. back to you. >> jon, can i turn you to amazon now? the shares are sinking -- morgan stanley cut its rating on the stock today. what are their concerns specifically? although we should note that the stock has had a little trouble recently before this downgrade even. >> yes. i would say that the core issue is concern over whether these investments that amazon's made in infrastructure, whether it's logistics on the physical side or kindle fire and the kindle on the digital side are really going to