like the guy you saw i was in his cell, the guy knows macbeth. he can recite macbeth.t i was in prison. it was weird. lisa: and they liked you too. it seemed that you had some really good discussions. what was the most surprising thing? did you go in with preconceptions and did you find those or were they shattered? >> that's a really good question. you know what? i'm catholic i guess i believe in redemption if you'rei willing to earn it. and usually when i go to a prison or jail, nobody did nothing you know what i mean? they admit it, they know what they did wrong, and they're trying to do better to get out number one. and i said, hey, listen, man, your victim's families might be watching this and i'm not -- are you sorry and the guy says that doesn't even begin to describe it and i said okay. that's a good place to start. lisa: and my interview with celebrity chef you know and love her from chopped. she's amazing. but tonight. you'll hear what really makes her particular. plus i take the sports wind by storm. ronda rousey and tim howard, they're both coming up later