literally, i never macek of health, we are at or near the bottom.clearly we are spending more, but getting way less than this has to change. c-span: one of those that was obviously invisibly critical of the insurance companies as a former insurance company executive by the name of wendell potter. who is he? >> guest: a former executive at sigma who visited a place called remote area medical. remote area medical was started by tv personality from britain. it would send airplanes into third world countries to provide health care. they realize there's places in the u.s. that once getting -- but equally needed that type of care. so he literally flies in these jumbo jets provides health care to fairgrounds, nascar crowns. and when wendell potter went to visit one of these missions, he saw thousands thousands of uninsured people who were standing in line to get health care and animal stalls and barns. he was denying people access to care. he was with insurance at the time? >> guest: he didn't realize he was doing. draco did he speak out before he left the