host: we have about five or six minutes left with mackenzie eaglen. let's go to martinsburg, west virginia, next. carl is a republican. caller: i can remember when bill clinton did it to the cia. i just hope we do not cut defense spending to the point that something and lot worse happens to this country. thank you. guest: i think you raise an excellent point. our military does not fight in wars to protect our interests here at home and us as citizens. they are also supposed to prevent conflict. they are not just supposed to be at the pointy end of the spear and kill people. they show and demonstrate so much strength and also have presence around the world. you have troops somewhere or ships sailing somewhere across the world as a show of force to prevent conflict from happening which ultimately does save money. when you start cutting defense too far or too fast, that is exactly what can happen. you can invite conflict. you can create things that are unnecessary. president reagan had this vision of peace through strength. america never went to work bec