geraldine page, i discovered, the last show she did in new york was playing madam arcati. n you believe it? and she was one of our prime, great actresses before she passed on. we all want to have a crack at arcati. you tell me why. i'm not quite sure why. we all want to infuse her with something of our own. and i don't quite know why. it is a good question, and i really can't answer it. >> let me ask, what is the joy for you as one actor in playing the character? >> oh, the laughter of the audience. >> okay. >> let me tell you. [ laughter ] >> without any modesty, you love a good laugh, huh? you love a good laugh? >> oh, yes, of course. to make an audience feel uplifted and full of fun and -- and when they see what's going on, watching these people, you know, on stage with this woman who is just winding around her little finger in her own way. this is -- this is a moment in theater that you never forget as an otheris ist-- as an artist. you just don't. bringing humor and happiness and joy to an audience is a wonderful opportunity in life, believe me. >> i've talked to many