madam ebtekar... the second term that president trump has... i have to say — yeah, forgive me for the interruption, i have to say i find this conversation with you very interesting because i think it's fair to say, even i have to say — yeah, forgive me for the interruption, i have to say i find this conversation with you very interesting because i think it's fair to say, even in the course of this interview, you've revealed yourself to be still, as you've long been a relative, quote—unquote, "moderate" within the iranian political scene. so, in that spirit, and given your own history — because let us not forget, you, as a student leader, were one of the most high—profile students involved in the occupation of the us embassy back in 1979 and 1980, you became a spokesman for those radical students who held us diplomats... spokeswoman. mmm? spokeswoman. yes, and the point was you justified the violation of international law, which that occupation and holding hostage diplomats represented. would it, in th